From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:35:05 +0400 From: "Dmitry V. Levin" To: ALT Devel discussion list Message-ID: <20101010203504.GA1826@altlinux.org> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <20101009230637.GA1548@altlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101009230637.GA1548@altlinux.org> X-fingerprint: FE4C 93AB E19A 2E4C CB5D 3E4E 7CAB E6AC 9E35 361E Subject: Re: [devel] =?koi8-r?b?08/axMHOycUg89TBwsnM2M7Px88gwtLBzt7BIMkg7sHD?= =?koi8-r?b?yc/OwczYzs/KIO/z?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:35:06 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:06:37AM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote: > =EB=C1=D6=C5=D4=D3=D1, =D3=CB=CF=D2=CF =D0=D2=C9=C4=A3=D4=D3=D1 =CF=D4=C6= =CF=D2=CB=C9=D7=C1=D4=D8 =CE=CF=D7=D9=CA =F3=D4=C1=C2=C9=CC=D8=CE=D9=CA =C2= =D2=C1=CE=DE, =D7=D3=CC=C5=C4=D3=D4=D7=C9=C5 > =D4=CF=C7=CF, =DE=D4=CF =CE=C5=CF=C2=C8=CF=C4=C9=CD=CF =D3=CF=DA=C4=C1=D4= =D8 =EE=C1=C3=C9=CF=CE=C1=CC=D8=CE=D5=C0 =EF=F3! =E4=CC=D1 =DC=D4=CF=C7=CF= =C5=DD=A3 =CE=D5=D6=CE=CF =D3=C4=C5=CC=C1=D4=D8 > =CD=CE=CF=C7=CF =C4=C5=CC. =EE=C9=D6=C5 =D3=D0=C9=D3=CF=CB =C4=C5=CC =D0= =CF =CD=CF=C5=CA =DE=C1=D3=D4=C9. =F0=CF-=D7=C9=C4=C9=CD=CF=CD=D5, =D7=D2= =C5=CD=C5=CE=C9 =D5 =CE=C1=D3 > =CD=C1=CC=CF; =C8=D5=D6=C5 =D4=CF=C7=CF, =C4=C5=CC=C1 =C9=C4=D5=D4 =CD=C5= =C4=CC=C5=CE=CE=CF. =E4=CC=D1 =CF=D3=D5=DD=C5=D3=D4=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=D1 =DA= =C1=C4=D5=CD=C1=CE=CE=CF=C7=CF =CD=CE=C5 > =D0=CF=D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C0=D4=D3=D1 =D3=D0=C5=C3=C9=C1=CC=D8=CE=D9=C5 =C1= =C4=CD=C9=CE=C9=D3=D4=D2=C1=D4=C9=D7=CE=D9=C5 =D0=CF=CC=CE=CF=CD=CF=DE=C9= =D1 (=CF=C2=C8=CF=C4 ACL =D0=D2=C9 =D3=C2=CF=D2=CB=C5 > =D0=C1=CB=C5=D4=CF=D7). =EF=C2=C8=CF=C4 ACL =D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C5=D4 =CF=D3=CF=C2=CF=C7=CF =D7=CE=C9= =CD=C1=CE=C9=D1: =C9=DA =D3=C1=CD=D9=C8 =CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=C8 =D0=CF=C2=D5=D6= =C4=C5=CE=C9=CA =CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =D3=CF=D7=C5=D2=DB=C5=CE=CE=CF =D3=CC=D5=DE=C1=CA=CE=CF =DE=D4=CF-=D4=CF = =D3=CC=CF=CD=C1=D4=D8 =C9=CC=C9 =D0=CF=CD=C5=DB=C1=D4=D8 =CD=C5=CA=CE=D4=C5= =CA=CE=C5=D2=D5. > =F0=CF=D3=CC=C5=C4=CE=C9=C5 =D4=D2=CF=C5 =D3=D5=D4=CF=CB =D3=C2=CF=D2=CF= =DE=CE=C9=C3=C1 =D0=C1=D2=C1=CC=C9=DA=CF=D7=C1=CE=C1 =C9=DA-=DA=C1 =CF=DE= =C5=CE=D8 =C2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C9=C8 =DA=C1=C4=C1=CE=C9=CA > =D3 qt4 =C9 kde, =C1 =D4=C5=D0=C5=D2=D8 =C9 gnome. =F0=CF-=D7=C9=C4=C9= =CD=CF=CD=D5, =D0=CF=D4=D2=C5=C2=D5=C0=D4=D3=D1 =C5=DD=A3 > =C4=CF=D0=CF=CC=CE=C9=D4=C5=CC=D8=CE=D9=C5 =D0=CF=CC=CE=CF=CD=CF=DE=C9=D1= =D3=D2=D5=C2=C1=D4=D8 =CE=C5=D5=C7=CF=C4=CE=D9=C5 =CD=CE=C5 =DA=C1=C4=C1= =CE=C9=D1.-) =ED=CF=D6=C5=D4, =CC=D5=DE=DB=C5 =C4=CF=C7=CF=D7=CF=D2=C9=D4=D8=D3=D1 =D3 = =CC=C0=C4=D8=CD=C9? 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