From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:35:08 +0200 From: Michael Shigorin To: devel@lists.altlinux.org Message-ID: <20091213223508.GK24097@osdn.org.ua> Mail-Followup-To: devel@lists.altlinux.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: [devel] [JT] *Kit X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:35:24 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Здравствуйте. Помнится, я как-то бухтел насчёт hal. Потом его закопали. Просьба почитать и осознать нижепроцитированное перед тем, как слишком активно тащить в рот (сизиф и дистрибутивы) разные *Kit и в особенности пока отсутствующий PackageKit. Новости старые, но думаю, для нас пригодятся. --- In short, the problem was that in the Fedora 12 default installation, regular users sitting at the console could install signed packages from any repository that the administrator has enabled. [...] The other main line of defense is that this behavior is "just" a default, and can be changed by administrators. While that is true, the process to do so is not obvious. It involves mucking about with PolicyKit files, something that many Fedora users probably know little to nothing about. Hughes thinks that users should learn PolicyKit: "If you're deploying F12, then I really think you should know the basics about PolicyKit." But, when Seth Vidal set out to find out how to disable the feature--documented on his blog--asking Hughes did not lead to the solution: "So, if our engineers don't know the basics, how should our users?" Overall, Hughes's reaction to the problem has been dismissive, bordering on rude: I don't particularly care how UNIX has always worked. Looking at the use-cases and the things people are trying to do this seemed the best default. Admins can trivially change the default on machines if they wish. --- http://lwn.net/Articles/362771/ Я лично таким людям, как этот дядя Хьюз -- не верю. -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/