From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:26:26 +0400 From: "Konstantin A. Lepikhov" To: ALT Linux Team development discussions Message-ID: <20071016172626.GA29198@lks.home> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions References: <20071010151844.GA13786@mail.gu.net> <20071010181519.GA8695@lks.home> <20071012104448.GA11239@mail.gu.net> <470F61EF.2010101@altlinux.org> <20071015153907.GA8585@mail.gu.net> <20071015160057.GA13015@lks.home> <20071016144124.GA10963@mail.gu.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071016144124.GA10963@mail.gu.net> X-Operation-System: ALT Linux Sisyphus (20070101) 2.6.22-wks-smp-alt0.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Subject: Re: [devel] PHP4 - End Of Life X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Team development discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:34:43 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Victor! 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