From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:10:12 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin To: ALT Devel discussion list Message-ID: <20060620151012.GY27750@osdn.org.ua> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <20060614150701.GH7887@grep.po.cs.msu.su> <20060615084048.GR25291@localhost.localdomain> <20060615101803.GS25291@localhost.localdomain> <4491427D.9000108@altlinux.com> <20060615151246.GA25291@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060615151246.GA25291@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: [devel] =?koi8-r?b?W0pUXSBMS01MIFFvVFcgUmU6IPPUwcLJzNjO2cog88na?= =?koi8-r?b?ycY=?= X-BeenThere: devel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:10:09 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 07:12:46PM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote: > "Итоговый результат" и "продукт" -- это слишком выпукло. Это > коммерческие интересы вендоров, которые могут не совпадать с > интересами и мотивацией разработчиков. Да, вот ещё про разработчиков, вендоров, интересы и результаты -- и чуточку про перфекционизм и технические подходы; собственно, пересекается и с тем, что говорил про педали к алгоритмам: --- http://lwn.net/Articles/186609/ Quote of the week The older policy was to get stuff roughly right, merge it into a tree then beat on it. Now everyone is blocking anything that is the slightest imperfect which makes it impossible to add anything large to the tree because it will *never* be perfect before a merge and hack session and it will never be perfect in everyones eyes... Perfection is the enemy of progress and of success. We risk moving back to the case we got into in 2.4 when merging got so hard that most vendors shipped kernels bearing no relationship to the "upstream" tree. Probably worse this time as there is no common "unofficial" tree like -ac so they will all ship different variants and combinations. -- Alan Cox -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/