* [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
@ 2005-02-18 23:59 Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
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From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-18 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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"For all those people who think static linking is good.
Read and then think again."
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov
2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov
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From: Sergey Y. Afonin @ 2005-02-19 6:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Saturday 19 February 2005 03:59, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> Read and then think again."
>
> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
Типа на год отстали ? :-)
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
@ 2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov
2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov
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From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> Read and then think again."
>
> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
Чё-то я этого не догнал:
"tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
Rgds,
Anton
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov
@ 2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov
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From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> > Read and then think again."
> >
> > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
> Чё-то я этого не догнал:
> "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
> Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
Да, в отличие от статических.
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 12:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov
2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin
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From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> > > Read and then think again."
> > >
> > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
> > Чё-то я этого не догнал:
> > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
> > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
>
> Да, в отличие от статических.
А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе?
Rgds,
Anton
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 13:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov
@ 2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov
2005-02-21 16:25 ` OFF: [devel] " Dimitry V. Ketov
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From: Dmitry V. Levin @ 2005-02-19 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > > "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> > > > Read and then think again."
> > > >
> > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
> > > Чё-то я этого не догнал:
> > > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
> > > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
> >
> > Да, в отличие от статических.
>
> А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе?
Это Drepper не в курсе?
У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха.
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin
@ 2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov
2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin
2005-02-21 16:25 ` OFF: [devel] " Dimitry V. Ketov
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From: Anton D. Kachalov @ 2005-02-19 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 05:22:36PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > > > > "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> > > > > Read and then think again."
> > > > >
> > > > > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
> > > > Чё-то я этого не догнал:
> > > > "tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
> > > > Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
> > >
> > > Да, в отличие от статических.
> >
> > А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе?
>
> Это Drepper не в курсе?
> У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха.
Ничего не понял %)
Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно рекомендует не линковаться статикой?
Rgds,
Anton
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* Re: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov
@ 2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin
2005-02-21 16:00 ` [devel] [JT] " Michael Shigorin
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From: Anton Farygin @ 2005-02-21 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 05:22:36PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 04:40:18PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:46:22PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 03:18:03PM +0300, Anton D. Kachalov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"For all those people who think static linking is good.
>>>>>>Read and then think again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Чё-то я этого не догнал:
>>>>>"tools and hacks like ltrace, LD_PRELOAD, LD_PROFILE don't work."
>>>>>Как это понимать? По-моему, прекрасно работает с динамическими либами.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Да, в отличие от статических.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>А то, что их (библиотечки) можно подменить (левыми) он (автор) не в курсе?
>>>
>>>Это Drepper не в курсе?
>>>У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха.
>>>
>>>
>Ничего не понял %)
>Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно рекомендует не линковаться статикой?
>
>
>
Mouse, ты что пил/курил/ел ?
Rgds,
Rider
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* [devel] [JT] Re: I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-21 15:54 ` Anton Farygin
@ 2005-02-21 16:00 ` Michael Shigorin
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From: Michael Shigorin @ 2005-02-21 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 06:54:08PM +0300, Anton Farygin wrote:
> >>>Это Drepper не в курсе?
> >>>У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха.
> >Ничего не понял %) Если он знает, то зачем так усиленно
> >рекомендует не линковаться статикой?
> Mouse, ты что пил/курил/ел ?
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9766 ? ;-)
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* OFF: [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-19 14:22 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 14:38 ` Anton D. Kachalov
@ 2005-02-21 16:25 ` Dimitry V. Ketov
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From: Dimitry V. Ketov @ 2005-02-21 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
В fortune!
Dmitry V. Levin пишет:
> Это Drepper не в курсе?
> У меня на клавиатуре кнопки давятся от смеха.
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* Re: [devel] [JT] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-18 23:59 [devel] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful Dmitry V. Levin
2005-02-19 6:52 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2005-02-19 12:18 ` Anton D. Kachalov
@ 2005-02-21 17:14 ` Alexey Morozov
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
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From: Alexey Morozov @ 2005-02-21 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> Read and then think again."
> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
Life is evil. Necessary evil.
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* Re: [devel] [JT] I: Static Linking Considered Harmful
2005-02-21 17:14 ` [devel] [JT] " Alexey Morozov
@ 2005-02-22 10:35 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
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From: Mikhail Zabaluev @ 2005-02-22 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ALT Devel discussion list
В Пнд, 21/02/2005 в 23:14 +0600, Alexey Morozov пишет:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 02:59:15AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > "For all those people who think static linking is good.
> > Read and then think again."
> > http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html
> Life is evil. Necessary evil.
Will they ever learn?
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