From: Alexey Tourbin <at@turbinal.org>
To: devel@altlinux.ru
Subject: [devel] gcc -O2 vs gcc -Os performance
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:56:16 +0300
Message-ID: <20030312015616.GA2882@solemn.turbinal.org> (raw)
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Greetings!
Subj: по мотивам одноименной истории из linux-kernel -- см. тред
http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Feb/0984.html
Andi Kleen (ak_at_suse.de):
-Os on 2.95 is not too useful. It only started becomming useful
on 3.1+, even more so on the upcomming 3.3.
e.g. there was one report of ACPI shrinking by >60k by
recompiling it with -Os on 3.1. ACPI is only slow path code so
that is completely reasonable.
Alan Cox (alan_at_lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk):
gcc 3.2 is a lot smarter about -Os and it makes a very big size
difference according to the numbers the from the ACPI guys.
Martin J. Bligh (mbligh_at_aracnet.com):
2901299 vmlinux.O2
2667827 vmlinux.Os
Kernbench-2: (make -j N vmlinux, where N = 2 x num_cpus)
Elapsed User System CPU
2.5.59-mjb3-gcc32-O2 45.86 564.75 110.91 1472.67
2.5.59-mjb3-gcc32-Os 45.74 563.96 111.06 1475.17
Linus Torvalds (torvalds_at_transmeta.com):
That's since a large part of the premise of the -Os speed
advantage is that it is better for icache (usually not an issue
for microbenchmarks) and that it is better for load/startup
times (generally not a huge issue for kernels, since the real
startup costs of kernels tend to be entirely elsewhere).
So I suspect -Os tends to be more appropriate for user-mode
code, and especially code with low repeat rates. Possibly the
"low repeat rate" thing ends up being true of certain kernel
subsystems too.
Think of it this way: if you win 10% in size, you're likely to
map and load 10% less code pages at run-time. Which is not a big
issue for traditional data-centric loads, but can be a _huge_
deal for things like GUI programs etc where there is often more
code than data.
Я решил провести собственное "userland" небольшое исследование. Для
этого я пересобрал пакеты dillo и perl с "%define _optlevel s".
dillo -O2:
300792 /usr/bin/dillo
217358 dillo-0.7.1-alt1.i686.rpm
dillo -Os:
247544 /usr/bin/dillo
206148 dillo-0.7.1-alt1.i686.rpm
perl -O2:
1213020 /usr/lib/libperl.so.5.8
3345684 perl-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
1400875 perl-base-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
820888 perl-devel-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
44051 perl-suidperl-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 37 wallclock secs (37.05 usr + 0.01 sys = 37.06 CPU) @ 28294.01/s (n=1048576)
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 36 wallclock secs (36.84 usr + 0.00 sys = 36.84 CPU) @ 28462.98/s (n=1048576)
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 37 wallclock secs (37.00 usr + 0.01 sys = 37.01 CPU) @ 28332.23/s (n=1048576)
$
perl -Os:
1057258 /usr/lib/libperl.so.5.8
3333843 perl-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
1345924 perl-base-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
818170 perl-devel-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
42578 perl-suidperl-5.8.0-alt1.1.i686.rpm
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 35 wallclock secs (34.19 usr + 0.00 sys = 34.19 CPU) @ 30669.08/s (n=1048576)
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 34 wallclock secs (34.33 usr + 0.00 sys = 34.33 CPU) @ 30544.01/s (n=1048576)
$ perl -MBenchmark -e 'timethis(2**20, "\$y=sin(3.14)+cos(3.15);\$y=~s/\$y/./igs;")'
timethis 1048576: 34 wallclock secs (34.33 usr + 0.01 sys = 34.34 CPU) @ 30535.12/s (n=1048576)
$
Машина Celeron333.
Выглядит очень привлекательно: размер бинарей уменьшается на 10-20%, а
падение производительности: у ядра почти не падает, а у перла -- в
данном частном случае растёт на 8-9%!!!!!! Скорее всего, это именно
из-за маленького кэша у Celeron'а. При этом измеряется некая
абстрактная производительность в идеальных условиях; в реальных условиях
реальная производительность может расти ещё больше.
Кроме того, уменьшается (хотя и не так сильно) размер RPM пакетов, что
достаточно важно как для подготовки однодисковых дистрибутивов, так и
для уменьшения интернет-трафика. А также для создания минимальных
систем! :)
Какие будут мнения?
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next reply other threads:[~2003-03-12 1:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-12 1:56 Alexey Tourbin [this message]
2003-03-12 8:37 ` [devel] " Michael Shigorin
2003-03-12 17:02 ` Alexey Tourbin
2003-03-12 13:57 ` [devel] " Victor Forsyuk
2003-03-12 17:10 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin
2003-03-12 22:57 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2003-05-09 9:29 ` Alexey Tourbin
2003-05-14 7:07 ` Igor Homyakov
2003-05-14 10:20 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2003-05-14 10:33 ` Igor Homyakov
2003-05-14 10:38 ` Igor Homyakov
2003-05-16 21:31 ` [devel] Re: gcc -O2 vs gcc -Os performance -- gcc-3.3 Alexey Tourbin
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