From: Vital Khilko <vk@altlinux.ru> To: ALT Devel discussion list <devel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: [devel] платформа для вендоров Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:56:17 +0300 Message-ID: <1129884977.8504.3.camel@pc392> (raw) In-Reply-To: <pan.2005.10.21.05.32.00.929296@altlinux.com> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 7116 bytes --] On Пят, 2005-10-21 at 09:32 +0400, Anton Farygin wrote: > В данном конкретном случае - платформа для вендоров. Вот тут ты вроде прав. Но лично у меня сложилось ощущение что скорее для местячковых ОЕМщиков. И всё это не на пустом месте - подкреплено некоторыми неприятностями. Как известно мы в Sam Solutions допиливаем пакеты из сизифа для ARM и далее создаём собственные продукты для забугорных заказчиков, это там, где GPL таки _реально_ работает и где юристы требуют _строгого_ соблюдения лицензии, и где заказчик хочет быть уверен что он ничего не нарушает и соблюдает каждую буковку закона. И вот юрист заказчика задаёт элементарный казалось бы вопрос" а как у нас с Copyright statement and distributed license per each binary package? а сырцы? а патчи?" И тут вдруг оказывается что всё плачевно... только 29 пакетов из порядка 300 что входят в наши дистрибутивы имеют хоть какую либо информацию об авторском праве и лисензии на пакет, остальные лишь ограничиваются тэгом в рпм, причём некоторое количество таких тэгов содержат неверную информацию. И вот теперь в овральном порядке мы вынуждены собирать всю необходимую информацию по каждому пакету и пересобирать... а сборка на ARM занимает ой как много времени. А между тем тот же дебиан давно обошёл эти грабли и имеет строгое полиси на этот счёт: 12.5 Copyright information Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license in the file /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed nor be a symbolic link. In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained. It should name the original authors of the package and the Debian maintainer(s) who were involved with its creation. A copy of the file which will be installed in /usr/share/doc/package/copyright should be in debian/copyright in the source package. /usr/share/doc/package may be a symbolic link to another directory in /usr/share/doc only if the two packages both come from the same source and the first package Depends on the second. These rules are important because copyrights must be extractable by mechanical means. Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Artistic license, the GNU GPL, and the GNU LGPL should refer to the files /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic, /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL, and /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL respectively, rather than quoting them in the copyright file. You should not use the copyright file as a general README file. If your package has such a file it should be installed in /usr/share/doc/package/README or README.Debian or some other appropriate place. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/12/msg00194.html >From a slightly different perspective, here's what you *should* do to write a copyright file: 1) Find the license declaration in the upstream source. That should look like this for GPLed works: --- This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. --- And similar. You are not looking for something that starts like this: --- GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 Copyright (C) 1989, 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA --- Or this: --- The "Artistic License" Preamble --- You need to find the bit which says "This program is distributable under (license X|the following license:)". It is absolutely *NOT* implicit that if a copy of the GPL (or some other license) is included in the source tree, the work is licensed under the GPL. If no such statement is present, no copyright license has been granted; go and get the upstream author to add one, or we can't distribute it at all. Copy that statement _verbatim_ into the copyright file. There should be (but does not have to be) a list of copyright owners and dates accompanying it. If there is, copy that too. If there isn't, do your best to make a list, and ask upstream to include it in the upstream source tree and keep it up to date. If you have sought and received mail from the copyright holder clarifying the copyright or license, include that verbatim. 2) Include your own name, email address, and copyright dates, identified as the package maintainer. Copyright subsists in Debian packaging itself; it's easily complicated enough for that, so you have partial copyright interest in anything you package. Never remove names or dates from this list unless you are repackaging from scratch. 3) Include a description of how you obtained the upstream source tarball. This should be sufficient for anybody to duplicate the process immediately, but don't worry too much if it isn't (eg, the server is not public or no longer accessible). 4) If the license itself is present in /usr/share/common-licenses/, include a reference to that file. Otherwise, include the full text of the license itself. Думаю что и нам следует принять аналогичное полиси, и настроить sisyphus_check на его проверку. І тогда думаю ситуации подобной нашей или той что была с драйверами nVidia, о которой рассказывал Сергей Большаков ,уже не повториться нікогда. -- Бизнесмены - пиявки сосущие кровь -- А. Лукашенко. The Wall Street Journal, 30 ноября 1996 г. [-- Attachment #2: Гэтая частка паведамленьня падпісана электронным подпісам --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-21 8:56 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2005-10-17 7:35 [devel] x86_64, lib64 и все все все Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-17 10:15 ` [devel] " Sergey Bolshakov 2005-10-17 11:33 ` Vital Khilko 2005-10-19 13:57 ` [devel] " Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-20 0:29 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-20 9:02 ` Anton Farygin 2005-10-20 13:37 ` Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-20 14:48 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2005-10-20 15:56 ` Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-20 17:21 ` [devel] [JT] " Michael Shigorin 2005-10-20 18:07 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-20 23:17 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-21 8:32 ` Epiphanov Sergei 2005-10-26 20:26 ` Denis Smirnov 2005-10-27 10:31 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2005-10-20 18:23 ` Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-21 7:29 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 9:18 ` Igor Zubkov 2005-10-21 10:51 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 11:27 ` yum and smart (was: Re: [devel] Re: [JT] Re: x86_64, lib64 и все все все) Igor Zubkov 2005-10-21 11:40 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 11:39 ` [devel] Re: [JT] Re: x86_64, lib64 и все все все Michael Shigorin 2005-10-21 11:45 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-22 9:09 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2005-10-22 11:40 ` Michael Shigorin 2005-10-22 12:25 ` Igor Zubkov 2005-10-22 18:54 ` [devel] yum, smart, apt (и кто бы sucks less) Michael Shigorin 2005-10-20 20:33 ` [devel] Re: x86_64, lib64 и все все все Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-20 21:58 ` Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-21 7:03 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 14:23 ` Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-21 5:32 ` Anton Farygin 2005-10-21 7:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-21 7:09 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 8:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-21 8:25 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 9:03 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2005-10-21 10:42 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 9:22 ` [devel][JT] " Igor Zubkov 2005-10-21 12:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-21 12:28 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 13:11 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-21 13:07 ` Vital Khilko 2005-10-21 13:24 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 13:23 ` Igor Vlasenko 2005-10-21 15:20 ` [devel] emacs-base (Was: x86_64, lib64 и все все все) Eugene Vlasov 2005-10-21 15:35 ` Igor Vlasenko 2005-10-21 15:41 ` Igor Vlasenko 2005-10-21 16:43 ` Eugene Vlasov 2005-10-21 8:56 ` Vital Khilko [this message] 2005-10-21 10:34 ` [devel] платформа для вендоров Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 10:56 ` Vital Khilko 2005-10-21 11:24 ` Igor Zubkov 2005-10-21 11:38 ` [devel] license test symlinks? Michael Shigorin 2005-10-21 12:43 ` Vital Khilko 2005-10-21 13:22 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 15:19 ` [devel] [JT] " Michael Shigorin 2005-10-21 11:37 ` [devel] Re: платформа для вендури Michael Shigorin 2005-10-21 11:28 ` Michael Shigorin 2005-10-26 20:23 ` [devel] Re: x86_64, lib64 и все все все Denis Smirnov 2005-10-20 7:15 ` [devel] " Kirill A. Shutemov 2005-10-21 7:21 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 7:57 ` Sviataslau Svirydau 2005-10-21 10:52 ` Anton D. Kachalov 2005-10-21 13:53 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin 2005-10-22 8:58 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2005-10-21 9:18 ` [devel] " Kirill A. Shutemov
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