From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:59:08 +0600 From: Ildar Mulyukov To: devel-ports@lists.altlinux.org In-Reply-To: <4aaa2e1c0801290330j2be62203m3743f01e0e5d9c8f@mail.gmail.com> (from wartan.hachaturow@gmail.com on Tue Jan 29 17:30:31 2008) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.22 Message-Id: <1201607948l.11484l.5l@ildar.innovations.kz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-5; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Drweb-SpamState: no X-Drweb-SpamScore: -155 Subject: Re: [devel-ports] arm eabi X-BeenThere: devel-ports@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux arch porting List-Id: ALT Linux arch porting List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:01:33 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: =BD=E3, =B2=D0=E0=E2=D0=DD, =B2=EB, =DA=DE=DD=D5=E7=DD=DE, =D3=E0=E3=D7=D0=DD=E3=DB=D8 =DC=D5=DD=EF =DE= =E1=DD=DE=D2=D0=E2=D5=DB=EC=DD=DE. =BF=DE=D9=D4=E3 =D2 =D4=D5=E2=E1=DA=D8= =D9 =E1=D0=D4 - =E0=D0=E1=E2=D8. =20 =B8 "=DA=E3=E0=D8=E2=EC" =D4=DE=DA=E3=DC=D5=DD=E2=D0=E6=D8=EE. =BD=DE =E2= =D0=DA=D8 =DE=E1=DC=D5=DB=EE=E1=EC =DD=D0 =DD=D5=DA=DE=E2=DE=E0=EB=D5 =DC= =DE=DC=D5=DD=E2=EB =DE=E2=D2=D5=E2=D8=E2=EC. 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