From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on sa.local.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 18:31:21 +0400 From: Alexey Sheplyakov To: ALT Linux kernel packages development Message-ID: References: <20220602003100.524482-1-vt@altlinux.org> <20220602163914.GB11775@altlinux.org> <20220605075911.GA22144@altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20220605075911.GA22144@altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [d-kernel] [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open X-BeenThere: devel-kernel@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux kernel packages development List-Id: ALT Linux kernel packages development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2022 14:31:28 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Hi again, On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 10:59:11AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > Breaking a basic system functionality (such as debugging and profiling) > > has nothing to do with security. > > Whatever you might consider a basic system functionality is your point of > view, other people are likely to have different use cases where some of > things your treat as basic are redundant or even dangerous. So what? There are people who think that open source software is inherently dangerous (since everyone can examine the source and exploit bugs) and should be banned. Some people think that computers are redundant or even dangerous. > With regards to debugging and profiling, I do have installs where neither ^^^ > debugging nor profiling should be allowed, and we have ^^^^ L’État c’est moi, huh? > a universal kernel to achieve that. Surely you can have whatever crazy setup (that's what open source is about). However punishing everyone for that is not appreciated at all. Happy hacking, Alexey