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From: Alexey Sheplyakov <asheplyakov@basealt.ru>
To: ALT Linux kernel packages development <devel-kernel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [d-kernel] [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 18:31:21 +0400
Message-ID: <Yp4PuQTPUQt+7A9c@asheplyakov-rocket> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220605075911.GA22144@altlinux.org>

Hi again,

On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 10:59:11AM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
> > Breaking a basic system functionality (such as debugging and profiling)
> > has nothing to do with security.
> 
> Whatever you might consider a basic system functionality is your point of
> view, other people are likely to have different use cases where some of
> things your treat as basic are redundant or even dangerous.

So what? There are people who think that open source software is inherently
dangerous (since everyone can examine the source and exploit bugs) and should
be banned. Some people think that computers are redundant or even dangerous.

> With regards to debugging and profiling, I do have installs where neither
                                          ^^^
> debugging nor profiling should be allowed, and we have 
                                                ^^^^
L’État c’est moi, huh?

> a universal kernel to achieve that.

Surely you can have whatever crazy setup (that's what open source is
about). However punishing everyone for that is not appreciated at all.

Happy hacking,
	Alexey



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-02  0:31 Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02  7:14 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-02 12:40   ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 13:29     ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 15:58     ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 17:06       ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 18:26       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-02 18:42         ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 18:56           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03  6:27             ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 19:08           ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03  6:16             ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 12:41               ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03 12:54                 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 15:15 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-02 16:39   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03  6:25     ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 15:07       ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-05  7:48     ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-05  7:59       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-06 14:31         ` Alexey Sheplyakov [this message]
2022-06-05 13:04       ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06  9:20         ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-06 10:31           ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-06 12:10             ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-06 12:53           ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06 12:59             ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-08 14:27             ` [d-kernel] right to profile (Re: [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open) Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-15 11:19               ` [d-kernel] [JT] Re: right to profile Michael Shigorin

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