From: Alexey Sheplyakov <asheplyakov@basealt.ru>
To: ALT Linux kernel packages development <devel-kernel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [d-kernel] [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 16:10:39 +0400
Message-ID: <Yp3uvxtVTz311AtU@asheplyakov-rocket> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220606133104.bbe440d29617fc9f7f8778ad@altlinux.org>
On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 01:31:04PM +0300, Andrey Savchenko wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 13:20:40 +0400 Alexey Sheplyakov wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 04:04:56PM +0300, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote:
> > > > People who actually need security
> > > >
> > > > 1) don't use out-of-order CPUs (to avoid Meltdown, Spectre, etc)
> > > > 2) don't use Linux (so the kernel can be actually audited)
> > > > 3) don't exist
> > >
> > > I don't get the point of these. If we don't need security why should we
> > > bother with user/group processes/filesystems separation and permissions,
> > > chrooting, etc. We have a superuser, lets everything run with it!
> >
> > 1. In a way we already do (on desktop systems). All applications run with
> > the same uid and have the same permissions. Nothing prevents firefox
> > from sending my private GPG key to $BIG_BROTHER, or removing all files
> > (in $HOME), etc.
>
> Just use firejail.
You mean this one
https://unparalleled.eu/publications/2021/advisory-unpar-2021-0.txt ?
No, thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-06 12:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-02 0:31 Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 7:14 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-02 12:40 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 13:29 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 15:58 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 17:06 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-02 18:26 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-02 18:42 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 18:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03 6:27 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 19:08 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03 6:16 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 12:41 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-03 12:54 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-02 15:15 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-02 16:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-03 6:25 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-03 15:07 ` Vitaly Chikunov
2022-06-05 7:48 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-05 7:59 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-06-06 14:31 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-05 13:04 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06 9:20 ` Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-06 10:31 ` Andrey Savchenko
2022-06-06 12:10 ` Alexey Sheplyakov [this message]
2022-06-06 12:53 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-06 12:59 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2022-06-08 14:27 ` [d-kernel] right to profile (Re: [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open) Alexey Sheplyakov
2022-06-15 11:19 ` [d-kernel] [JT] Re: right to profile Michael Shigorin
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