From: "Vladimir D. Seleznev" <vseleznv@altlinux.org> To: ALT Linux kernel packages development <devel-kernel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [d-kernel] [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 15:59:41 +0300 Message-ID: <Yp36PQ19dItoXxDO@portlab> (raw) In-Reply-To: <Yp3453iEeYPzZpEM@portlab> On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 03:54:00PM +0300, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 01:20:40PM +0400, Alexey Sheplyakov wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 04:04:56PM +0300, Vladimir D. Seleznev wrote: > > > > People who actually need security > > > > > > > > 1) don't use out-of-order CPUs (to avoid Meltdown, Spectre, etc) > > > > 2) don't use Linux (so the kernel can be actually audited) > > > > 3) don't exist > > > > > > I don't get the point of these. If we don't need security why should we > > > bother with user/group processes/filesystems separation and permissions, > > > chrooting, etc. We have a superuser, lets everything run with it! > > > > 1. In a way we already do (on desktop systems). All applications run with > > the same uid and have the same permissions. Nothing prevents firefox > > from sending my private GPG key to $BIG_BROTHER, or removing all files > > (in $HOME), etc. > > I run firefox instanses and every semi-trusted applications with > different uids, so none of them can still my GPG or any other secrets or ^ steal /* fixed */ > corrupt my $HOME (until really bad things happen): -- WBR, Vladimir D. Seleznev
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-06 12:59 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-06-02 0:31 Vitaly Chikunov 2022-06-02 7:14 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2022-06-02 12:40 ` Vitaly Chikunov 2022-06-02 13:29 ` Vitaly Chikunov 2022-06-02 15:58 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-02 17:06 ` Vitaly Chikunov 2022-06-02 18:26 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev 2022-06-02 18:42 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-02 18:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2022-06-03 6:27 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-02 19:08 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev 2022-06-03 6:16 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-03 12:41 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev 2022-06-03 12:54 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-02 15:15 ` Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-02 16:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2022-06-03 6:25 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-03 15:07 ` Vitaly Chikunov 2022-06-05 7:48 ` Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-05 7:59 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2022-06-06 14:31 ` Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-05 13:04 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev 2022-06-06 9:20 ` Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-06 10:31 ` Andrey Savchenko 2022-06-06 12:10 ` Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-06 12:53 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev 2022-06-06 12:59 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev [this message] 2022-06-08 14:27 ` [d-kernel] right to profile (Re: [PATCH] UBUNTU: SAUCE: security, perf: Allow further restriction of perf_event_open) Alexey Sheplyakov 2022-06-15 11:19 ` [d-kernel] [JT] Re: right to profile Michael Shigorin
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