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On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 16:29:52 +0300 Michael Shigorin wrote:
> =3D =D0=93=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B0 1 =3D
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 07:08:16PM +0300, Arseny Maslennikov wrote:
> > > > =D0=A2=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=
=D0=BE aplay =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=
=D1=8C paplay. =20
> > > =D0=97=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC?  aplay =D1=83=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B5=
=D1=80=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B9. =20
> > aside: =D0=AF =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B2 =D0=BA=D1=83=D1=80=D1=81=D0=B5, =D0=
=BC=D1=8B =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=
=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BF=D0=
=BD=D1=8B=D0=B5 =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=8B
> > =D0=B1=D0=B5=D0=B7 PulseAudio? =20
>=20
> =D0=94=D0=B0; =D0=BA=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B8, =D1=81 =D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC=D1=8B =D0=B8 =D0=BF=
=D0=B8=D1=88=D1=83.
>=20
> > =D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=82=D1=8B =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=BB=D0=
=B0=D0=B3=D0=B0=D0=B5=D1=88=D1=8C =D1=82=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D1=80=D0=
=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=
=BC=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=8E =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=81=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=
=BC=D1=83 =20
>=20
> =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=B8, =D1=8F =D1=82=D0=B8=D1=85=D0=
=BE =D1=84=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=B5=D1=8E -- =D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B0=
=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BB =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=
=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=87=D0=BD=D0=BE sem@
> =D0=BF=D0=BE =D0=BC=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BC NNN+1-=D0=B9 =D1=
=80=D0=B0=D0=B7 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=
=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D0=B8; =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8F=D1=82=D0=
=BD=D0=BE, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BB=D1=8E=D0=B1=D1=83=D1=8E
> =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=
 =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=BE The Tool[1], =D0=
=BD=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=B4=D1=83=D0=BC=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D1=82=D1=83=D1=82 =D0=
=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=B0 --
> "=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=89=D0=B5, =D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BC =
=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D1=88=D0=B5", =D0=B8 =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=
=BD=D1=8F =D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D0=B4 =D0=B8=
=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BE
> =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0=
=D0=B5=D1=82 (tm), =D1=81=D1=8D=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=B2 =
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BB=
=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B2=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8,
> =D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE =D1=83=D1=88=D0=BB=D0=BE =D0=
=BD=D0=B0 =D1=8D=D1=82=D1=83 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=
=BA=D1=83.

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=D1=8F =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BF=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=BC=
=D1=8B=D1=81=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=8E =D0=B1=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE =
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=D1=82=D1=8C
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=D0=BD=D1=82 =D1=81 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BF=D1=8B=D1=82=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D1=81=
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=
=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C paplay =D0=BC=D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D0=B0=
=D0=B6=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=81=D1=8F
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8B=D0=BC =D0=B8 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D1=83=
=D0=BC=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=BC.

> > =D0=90=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=BD =D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=83=D0=
=BA=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BB, =D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE aplay =D0=BA =D0=BF=D1=83=
=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=B1=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=
=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=87=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7
> > =D0=BF=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B3=D0=B8=D0=BD-=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=
=BA=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80, =D0=B8 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=
=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=B5=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=
=8C =D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=B5=D1=82 =D1=81=D0=BC=D1=8B=D1=81=D0=BB =D1=82=D0=
=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE
> > =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5, =D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =
=D0=BC=D1=8B =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BC =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=
=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=83 =D0=BF=D1=80=
=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9, =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=
=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B5
> > =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=8F=D1=82 =D0=B7=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=BA =D0=
=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA. =20
>=20
> =D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=BA=D1=82=D0=BE-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=
=82=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C =D1=81=D1=
=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D1=83 =D1=81=D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=BF=D1=82=D0=
=BE=D0=BC =D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BC-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B5=D1=89=
=D1=91
> =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=
=BB=D0=B3=D0=BE =D0=B7=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=83=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=89=D0=
=B8=D0=BC=D1=81=D1=8F -- =D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8 =D0=BF=
=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B8=D0=BC, ACL =D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BA=D1=80=D1=8B=D1=82.
>=20
> =D0=9D=D0=BE =D1=8D=D1=82=D1=83 =D0=B2=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=
=BE=D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=BC=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=
=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=BA=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=
=8C, =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=BB=D1=8E=D1=85=D0=BD=D1=
=83=D1=82=D1=8C
> =D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D1=87=D0=BA=D1=83 =D0=B2 lists/=D0=BD=D1=83=D0=
=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B5 =D0=B8 =D0=B2=D1=81=D1=91 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=8D=D1=82=
=D0=BE=D0=BC.  =D0=90 =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=88=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=B6 =D0=
=A0=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D1=8C.

=D0=AF =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=83=
=D0=BC=D0=B0=D0=BB, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B0 =D0=
=B2 p9 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82.

> > =D0=95=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=
=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5 =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE test-audio (=D0=
=BE=D1=82 =D0=BA=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=8F =D0=BD=D0=
=B5 =D0=B2=D0=B8=D0=B6=D1=83
> > =D0=B8=D1=81=D1=85=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=BD=D0=
=B8=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B5) =E2=80=94 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=BA=
=D0=B0 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BA=D0=BB=D1=8E=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =
=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F, =
=D1=82=D0=BE =D1=82=D1=83=D1=82
> > =D0=B8 =D0=B2=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B4=D1=83 =D0=BD=D0=B5=D0=B2=D0=
=B0=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE, =D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=B4=D0=B0 =D0=BF=
=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=B9=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=B9=D0=BD=
=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=8B =D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=B8 =D1=80=
=D0=B5=D1=88=D0=B0=D1=8E=D1=82,
> > =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA =D0=B7=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=BA =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=
=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8C. =20
>=20
> =D0=9A=D0=B0=D0=BA =D1=8D=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5=D1=82, =D1=81=D0=BC. [=
2].
>=20
> =3D =D0=91=D0=B8=D0=B1=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=84=D0=B8=D1=
=8F =3D
>=20
> [1] http://egorfine.com/ru/articles/worse-than-failure
> [2] http://packages.altlinux.org/ru/sisyphus/specfiles/test-audio
>=20


--=20
WBR, Mikhail Efremov