From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: community@altlinux.ru From: Arioch Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:53:11 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4230372A.3010806@list.ru> <085c01c5256b$90d713f0$8fa4210a@ksf720> <20050310190759.GL7719@osdn.org.ua> <20050311120347.GE7719@osdn.org.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.249.152.133 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050202) X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru In-Reply-To: <20050311120347.GE7719@osdn.org.ua> Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: glac-community@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: community@altlinux.ru Subject: [Comm] Re: 0install X-BeenThere: community@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: community@altlinux.ru List-Id: Mailing list for ALT Linux users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:54:17 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Michael Shigorin =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > =F0=CF=D4=CF=CD=D5 =DE=D4=CF =D7=C5=D2=CF=D1=D4=CE=CF=D3=D4=D8 =D0=D2=CF= =CC=CF=CD=C1 =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2=D3=CB=CF=CA =D3=D4=D2=C1=CE=C9=DE=CB=C9 =C9 = =CE=CF=D2=CD=C1=CC=D8=CE=D9=CD > =CF=C2=D2=C1=DA=CF=CD =CF=C8=D2=C1=CE=D1=C5=CD=CF=C7=CF =D2=C5=D0=CF=DA= =C9=D4=CF=D2=C9=D1 =D7 =C2=CF=CC=D8=DB=C9=CE=D3=D4=D7=C5 =D3=CC=D5=DE=C1=C5= =D7 > =CE=C5=D3=CF=D0=CF=D3=D4=C1=D7=C9=CD=D9. =20 =FE=C5=D2=D4 =D3 =CE=C9=CD =D3 =D0=D2=CF=CC=CF=CD=CF=CD. =F0=D2=C9 =CF=D2= =C7=C1=CE=C9=DA=C1=C3=C9=C9 =DC=D4=CF=CA =D3=C5=D4=C9 =D0=CF p2p-=D0=D2=C9= =CE=C3=C9=D0=C1=CD =DC=D4=CF=20 =C2=D5=C4=C5=D4 =C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=D9=CA =D0=CF=D6=C1=D2, =CB=CF=D4=CF=D2=D9= =CA =D4=C1=CB =D6=C5 =C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=CF =C2=D5=C4=C5=D4 =D0=CF=D4=D5=DD=C5= =CE =CB=CF=C7=C4=C1 =D0=CF=D1=D7=C9=D4=D3=D1=20 =C6=CC=C1=C7 =D4=C9=D0=C1 fake =C1 =D0=CF=D4=CF=CD =C9 =D7=CF=DA=D7=D2=C1= =D4=CF=CD =CB=CF=CE=D4=D2=CF=CC=D1 =CE=C1=C4 =D3=D4=D2=C1=CE=C9=DE=CB=CF=CA= =2E =ED=C5=CE=D1 =D3=CD=D5=DD=C1=C0=D4 =C4=CF=D3=D4=C1=D4=CF=DE=CE=CF =D6=C5=D3= =D4=CB=C9=C5 =DA=C1=D7=D1=DA=CB=C9 =CE=C1 IP4/DNS/HTTP =F7 =C6=CF=D2=D5=CD=C5 Gentoo =C2=D9=CC =DA=C1=CD=C5=DE=C1=D4=C5=CC=D8=CE= =D9=CA =D0=D2=C9=CD=C5=D2 =D0=D2=C9 =CF=C2=D3=D5=D6=C4=C5=CE=C9=C9 =CB=C1= =CB=CF=CA-=D4=CF =D0=D2=CF=C7=C9.=20 =EE=C5 =CD=CF=C7=D5 =DE=C5=CC=CF=D7=C5=CB =C5=C5 =DA=C1=D0=D5=D3=D4=C9=D4= =D8, =C1 =CF=CE =D0=D2=CF=D3=D4=CF sf.net =D7=CD=C5=D3=D4=CF sourceforge.= net=20 =D7=D7=C5=CC :-) =F0=CF=CD=C5=CE=D1=CC =C1=D7=D4=CF=D2 =C4=CF=CD=C1=DB=CE=C0=C0 =D3=D4=D2=C1= =CE=C9=DE=CB=D5 - 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