From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:24:22 +0400 From: Mikhail Efremov To: community@lists.altlinux.org Message-ID: <20100927172422.18f03665@sem.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <4C9F8EBA.50507@yandex.ru> <20100927003559.2cd0fc80@altlinux.ru> Organization: ALT Linux X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-alt-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Comm] =?utf-8?b?W0FudGlxdWVdINCg0LDQt9Cy0LjRgtC40LUgIHRyYXlfZWpl?= =?utf-8?q?ct?= X-BeenThere: community@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Linux Community general discussions List-Id: ALT Linux Community general discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:23:33 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:18:18 +0400 =D0=92=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B4=D0=B8=D0=BC=D0= =B8=D1=80 =D0=93=D1=83=D1=81=D0=B5=D0=B2 wrote: > >> =D0=94=D0=B0, =D1=81=D0=BB=D1=83=D1=85=D0=B8 =D0=BE =D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BD= =D1=87=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B5 hal =D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA-=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=BD=D0=B5= =D0=B2=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B9 =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=B5= =D0=B3=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8 =D0=B2 =D1=80=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=81=D1=8B=D0=BB=D0=BA= =D0=B5..=20 > > =D0=AF =D0=BD=D0=B5 =D0=B2 =D0=BA=D1=83=D1=80=D1=81=D0=B5 =D0=BE =D1=87= =D0=B5=D0=BC =D1=82=D1=83=D1=82 =D1=80=D0=B5=D1=87=D1=8C, =D0=BD=D0=BE HAL = =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=B9=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=BD=D0= =BE =D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=80=D1=82=D0=B2, AFAIK. =D0=92 > > =D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D1=88=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D0=B5 =D0= =BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B3=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BC=D0=BC, =D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=8E=D1= =89=D0=B8=D1=85 =D0=B6=D0=B8=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9 =D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=81=D1=82=D1= =80=D0=B8=D0=BC, =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=BA=D1=83 HAL= =D1=83=D0=B6=D0=B5 > > =D0=B2=D1=8B=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=83=D0=BB=D0=B8. =D0=A2=D0=BE=D1=82 = =D0=B6=D0=B5 xorg =D0=B2 =D0=A1=D0=B8=D0=B7=D0=B8=D1=84=D0=B5 hal =D0=BD=D0= =B5 =D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D1=83=D0=B5=D1=82. >=20 > Xorg - 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