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* [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
@ 2003-01-23 16:32 ROmul
  2003-01-23 16:55 ` Alexander Bokovoy
  2003-01-24  5:15 ` Grigory Batalov
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: ROmul @ 2003-01-23 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

Цитата из FAQ по LaTeX.
------
Knuth has declared that he will do no further development of TeX; he will
continue to fix any bugs that are reported to him (though bugs are rare). This
decision was made soon after TeX version 3.0 was released; at each bug-fix
release the version number acquires one more digit, so that it tends to the
limit pi (at the time of writing, Knuth's latest release is version 3.14159).
Knuth wants TeX to be frozen at version pi when he dies; thereafter, no further
changes may be made to Knuth's source. (A similar rule is applied to Metafont;
its version number tends to the limit e, and currently stands at 2.718.)
-------
Вроде хорошее, практически великое дело сделал...но вполне себе эгоистично.
Редиска.

-- 
---
	ROmul,
	    The rubberheart... <-EXIT project->
HOMEPAGE: http://exitproject.ru	    


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* Re: [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
  2003-01-23 16:32 [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска ROmul
@ 2003-01-23 16:55 ` Alexander Bokovoy
  2003-01-24  9:09   ` ROmul
  2003-01-24  5:15 ` Grigory Batalov
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Bokovoy @ 2003-01-23 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 07:32:51PM +0300, ROmul wrote:
> Цитата из FAQ по LaTeX.
> ------
> Knuth has declared that he will do no further development of TeX; he will
> continue to fix any bugs that are reported to him (though bugs are rare). This
> decision was made soon after TeX version 3.0 was released; at each bug-fix
> release the version number acquires one more digit, so that it tends to the
> limit pi (at the time of writing, Knuth's latest release is version 3.14159).
> Knuth wants TeX to be frozen at version pi when he dies; thereafter, no further
> changes may be made to Knuth's source. (A similar rule is applied to Metafont;
> its version number tends to the limit e, and currently stands at 2.718.)
> -------
> Вроде хорошее, практически великое дело сделал...но вполне себе эгоистично.
> Редиска.
И что? Никто не запрещает развивать ТеХ далее, но называть его другим
именем.
-- 
/ Alexander Bokovoy
---
Police up your spare rounds and frags.  Don't leave nothin' for the dinks.
- Willem Dafoe in "Platoon"


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* Re: [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
  2003-01-23 16:32 [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска ROmul
  2003-01-23 16:55 ` Alexander Bokovoy
@ 2003-01-24  5:15 ` Grigory Batalov
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Grigory Batalov @ 2003-01-24  5:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:32:51 +0300
ROmul <romul.home@mtu-net.ru> wrote:

> Цитата из FAQ по LaTeX.
> ------
> Knuth has declared that he will do no further development of TeX; he will
> continue to fix any bugs that are reported to him (though bugs are rare). This
> decision was made soon after TeX version 3.0 was released; at each bug-fix
> release the version number acquires one more digit, so that it tends to the
> limit pi (at the time of writing, Knuth's latest release is version 3.14159).
> Knuth wants TeX to be frozen at version pi when he dies; thereafter, no further
> changes may be made to Knuth's source. (A similar rule is applied to Metafont;
> its version number tends to the limit e, and currently stands at 2.718.)
> -------
> Вроде хорошее, практически великое дело сделал...но вполне себе эгоистично.
> Редиска.

  По крайней мере, с чувством юмора у него всё в порядке. =)

-- 
 Баталов Григорий,
 системный администратор
 ОАО "Ковдорский ГОК"


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* Re: [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
  2003-01-23 16:55 ` Alexander Bokovoy
@ 2003-01-24  9:09   ` ROmul
  2003-01-24  9:47     ` Alexander Bokovoy
  2003-01-24 17:29     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: ROmul @ 2003-01-24  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:55:19 +0200
Alexander Bokovoy <a.bokovoy@sam-solutions.net> wrote:

AB> > version 3.14159). Knuth wants TeX to be frozen at version pi when he dies;
AB> > thereafter, no further changes may be made to Knuth's source. (A similar
```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
AB> И что? Никто не запрещает развивать ТеХ далее, но называть его другим
AB> именем.
Cмотри подчеркнутое. Чего развивать, если исходники нельзя будет трогать?

-- 
---
	ROmul,
	    The rubberheart... <-EXIT project->
HOMEPAGE: http://exitproject.ru	    


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* Re: [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
  2003-01-24  9:09   ` ROmul
@ 2003-01-24  9:47     ` Alexander Bokovoy
  2003-01-24 17:29     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Bokovoy @ 2003-01-24  9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 12:09:48PM +0300, ROmul wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:55:19 +0200
> Alexander Bokovoy <a.bokovoy@sam-solutions.net> wrote:
> 
> AB> > version 3.14159). Knuth wants TeX to be frozen at version pi when he dies;
> AB> > thereafter, no further changes may be made to Knuth's source. (A similar
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> AB> И что? Никто не запрещает развивать ТеХ далее, но называть его другим
> AB> именем.
> Cмотри подчеркнутое. Чего развивать, если исходники нельзя будет трогать?
Ох, как люди не любят смотреть в лицензии и пользуются чьими-то
недомолвками... Итак, идем в исходники Web2C:
texk/web2c/tex.web:

% This program is copyright (C) 1982 by D. E. Knuth; all rights are reserved.
% Copying of this file is authorized only if (1) you are D. E. Knuth, or if
% (2) you make absolutely no changes to your copy. (The WEB system provides
% for alterations via an auxiliary file; the master file should stay intact.)
% See Appendix H of the WEB manual for hints on how to install this program.
% And see Appendix A of the TRIP manual for details about how to validate it.

То есть, я могу распространять ТеХ, не внося изменений в tex.web, однако
могу модифицировать его через вспомогательный файл. В web2c это сделано
через texk/web2c/tex.ch, в котором говорится:

% Copying of this file is authorized only if either
% (1) you make absolutely no changes to your copy, including name, or
% (2) if you do make changes, you name it to something other than
%     "mltex.ch", "char_sub.ch", or "charsub.ch".

То есть, я могу внести изменения и распространять их в файле, имя которого
отличается от tex.ch, mltex.ch, char_sub.ch или charsub.ch.

В частности, одной из таких модификаций является e-TeX, другой -- PDFTex.

-- 
/ Alexander Bokovoy
---
Having to manually track the satellite.


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* Re: [Comm] [JT]TeX и Knuth..редиска
  2003-01-24  9:09   ` ROmul
  2003-01-24  9:47     ` Alexander Bokovoy
@ 2003-01-24 17:29     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitaly Lugovsky @ 2003-01-24 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: community

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, ROmul wrote:

> AB> И что? Никто не запрещает развивать ТеХ далее, но называть его другим
> AB> именем.
> Cмотри подчеркнутое. Чего развивать, если исходники нельзя
> будет трогать?

 Исходники трогать нельзя. А вот патчи прикладывать можно
(средствами WEB).




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