[mdk-re] [!] LWN Distributions += ALT Linux -- аууу!!

* [mdk-re] [!] LWN Distributions += ALT Linux -- аууу!!
@ 2001-10-16 10:58 Michael Shigorin
  2001-10-16 21:32 ` Egor Grebnev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Shigorin @ 2001-10-16 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ALT Linux

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	Здравствуйте.
Люди добрые, так кто-то поможет заполнить LWN Survey, который я
12 октября засылал? Или все мне настолько верят? ;)

Там есть некоторые данные, которые в моем исполнении как минимум
несколько спорны.

Давайте разберемся с этим -- пусть там и ALT будет...

...и спонсор новый найдется %(

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NB: в меру понимания заполнено -- Michael Shigorin <mike@lic145.kiev.ua>

			LWN DISTRIBUTION SURVEY
			     version 0.32

     The LWN distribution survey is a tool to gather comparable
     information about Linux distributions.  All provided surveys
     will be made publicly available in their entirety.  They
     are dated, so that multiple versions of a survey for a
     specific distribution can exist, providing historical
     information.

______________________________________________________________________________

Survey Date:

Name of person providing information:

E-mail address:

Connection with this distribution:
   (note, survey information from distribution creators/developers
    will replace information from other interested parties, wherever
    available.)

1.   What is the name of your distribution?
	ALT Linux

     What is the website for your distribution?
	http://altlinux.ru (in Russian),
	http://alt-linux.org

2.   What is the derivation of your distribution?

    _ SLS

    _ Slackware

    _ Jurix

    _ Red Hat

    _ Debian

    _ rolled from scratch

    X other  (Please name: Linux-Mandrake)

2a.   If you answered anything besides "rolled from scratch", do
      you still consider your distribution "tied" to its derivation,
      e.g., you release updates to your distribution based on updates
      from the original distribution?
	(formerly yes, now no)

2b.  If you answered "rolled from scratch" or other, 
     do you use a package management system?  

     If yes, which one?
	RPM3 (now switching to 4) + apt-rpm

3.   What languages do you support?  Please list, including English,
     if appropriate.
	All that Mandrake 8 supported. Special emphasis
	is made on correct i18n.

4.   Would you classify your distribution as a "mini"-distribution?
     (This is a very flexible term, covering Linux distributions 
     sized for a floppy or smaller, up through CD or disk-based
     Linux distributions that are on the small size.  It is more a
     matter of perception, in terms of whether you define the
     distribution partially by its small size compared to generic
     distributions like Debian, Red Hat, et al.)

     _ yes

     X no

4a.  If you answered yes to the above, please mark any of the
     following that are applicable:

     _ CD-based, e.g., intended to be booted from and run directly
       from a CD without requiring a hard disk.

     _ Disk-based, small, but intended to be run from a hard disk.
       Presumably too large for a floppy.

     _ Floppy-based

       How many floppies for the base distribution?

       How many floppies for supported add-ons?

     _ Flash-disk-based

     _ Other 

       Please explain:

5.   Hardware Support.  Please mark all the hardware platforms that
     your distribution supports.

     _ Alpha

     _ ARM

     _ IBM S/390

     X Intel x86/Pentium

     _ IA64

     _ NEC Mobile Gear PDAs

     _ Sparc

     _ Sparc64

     _ PowerPC

     _ PowerPC G4

     _ RS/6000

     _ Microcontrollers

     _ Other, please list:

5a.  For what hardware platforms do you provide optimized binaries,
     if any?
	i586

6.  Why did you decide to produce a Linux distribution?
	Originally it was Linux-Mandrake Russian Edition by
	IPLabs Linux Team, but not all significant changes found
	their way back to Mandrake and the team went stronger.

7.  What is the target audience for your distribution?
	There are 3 distinct distributions really:
	- generic (4CD last time: WS, server, devel, diverse
	  package list);
	- desktop (1CD, office+games+multimedia, almost no
	  -devel);
	- server (Castle, integrates RSBAC out-of-box,
	  now beta3).

	Plus, apt-enabled unstable/current branch (Sisyphus).

8.  Would you consider your distribution to be:

    X general purpose, e.g., useful for servers, desktops, and
      requiring tailoring for specific purposes.

    X special purpose, e.g., specifically tailored for a single
      functionality or a small group of functionalities.
	(see previous -- or should I split by branches?)

8a. If you consider your distribution to be special purpose, 
    below are a list of possible purposes.  Please check all that
    apply and add any that are missing:

    X Appliances, such as:
       X Communications Server
       X Router/Firewall
       X Web Cache

    X DOS/Windows support, via:
       X DOS partition
       X DOS/Windows install, separate boot
       _ Windows Users, accessible from Windows

    _ Diskless Terminal support

    X Education/Schools

    X Ease-of-use, for non-technical users

    _ Embedded Systems

    _ High-end and Cluster computing

    X Non-exportable crytographic support

    _ Older, slower hardware (pre-Pentium, for example)

    X Optimized performance

    _ Reduced memory usage

    X Rescue disk

    X Security

    _ Targeted user market, such as:
      _ ISPs
      _ E-commerce sites
      _ Highly Experienced, Technical users
      _ Physically challenged 
      X other

9.   Who are the primary developers for your distribution?  
     Please provide email addresses.
	Dmitry V. Levin <ldv@alt-linux.org>
	Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru>
	Sergie Pugachev <fd_rag@altlinux.ru>
	Sergey V Turchin <zerg@altlinux.ru>
	Stanislav Ievlev <inger@altlinux.ru>
	Aleksey Smirnov <smi@altlinux.ru>
	Alexander Bokovoy <ab@altlinux.ru>
	Alexey Novodvorsky (AEN) <aen@altlinux.ru>
	Anton Farygin (Rider) <rider@altlinux.ru>
	Konstantin Volckov <goldhead@altlinux.ru>
	Kostya Timoshenko <kt@altlinux.ru>
	Alexey Voinov <voins@voins.program.ru>
	Sergey Bolshakov <sbolshakov@altlinux.ru>
	Mikhail Zabaluev <mhz@alt-linux.org>
	Grigory Milev <week@altlinux.ru>
	Sergei Aranovsky <sa@altlinux.ru>
	S. Budnevitch <svb@altlinux.ru>
	Ivan Zakharyaschev <imz@altlinux.ru>
	Lev Levitin <lev@altlinux.ru>
	Peter Novodvorsky <nidd@altlinux.ru>
	Yury Zotov <yz@altlinux.ru>

Дмитрий Левин: источник -- Ваше письмо в -devel насчет
ключей для подписи пакетов в devel от Jun 19 2001.

9a.  How many developers in total are working on the distribution?
	at least 21.

9b.  How many of these developers are working full-time?
	10 (counting people from official ALT)

10.  Is there a packaged or commercial version of your distribution
     for sale? if so, please gives the names and URL's of the
     company or companies that provide it.
	Yes, every distribution can be ordered on CDs (even
	unstable snapshots) as well as downloaded; Castle and
	next generic distribution (Master 1.0) are supposed to
	get official support for boxed versions.

	It can be ordered at http://bolero.ru Internet shop,
	as well as purchased at a number of local
	software/hardware stores.

	Russian page on this topic is:
	http://altlinux.ru/?module=buy-inet .

11.  What other Linux distributions do you consider to be
     most similar in design goals and target audience?
	Linux-Mandrake, ASP Linux (http://asplinux.ru)

12.  What version of the kernel are you currently shipping?
	2.4.5 in last release (Junior 1.1), 2.4.10 (patched)
	in Sisyphus (unstable).

13.  What C libraries are you supporting:

     _ a.out

     _ glibc

     X glibc2

13a.  Which C library is the default for your builds? (Check only one):
      (Note, we have distributions on the list whose primary reason
      for existing is to support older libraries -- this is meant to
      be a check for such a distribution).

     _ a.out (libc4)

     _ glibc (libc5)

     X glibc2 (libc6)

14.  How large is your default installation?
	Depends on free disk space and distribution. Minimal
	installation is ~ 150-200M (народ, ПОПРАВЬТЕ!!!)

15.  How many packages are provided, including both default and
     optional packages?
	Spring 2001 offered 1591 package; current Sisyphus
	(which is the source for new packages) has XXXX of them.

16.  Is there a paid support service available?
	Yes. For boxed Castle (server) it will be included in box
	price.

17.  If appropriate, in what area, geographically, are the
     developers and/or company located?
	The headquarters are in Moscow, Russia; one of the core
	developers resides in Minsk, Belarus.

18.  When was your distribution first made available on the
     Internet?
	Near to Linux-Mandrake 6.0.

18a. If it is available on CD, when was it first made available on CD? 
	The same time

18c. When was it first publicly announced?
	????

19.  Do you have any documentable statistics on usage that you
     could share?  Such as downloads, commercial box sales, etc.
	????

20.  Does this distribution conform to the Linux Standards Base
     as published so far or the File Hierarchy Standard?
	Yes

20a.  If your distribution only partially conforms with the
      LSB/FHS, please describe what portions it conforms with
      and in what instances it does not conform (and why, if
      you wish to give that background).
	????

21.  Please provide information on any public mailing lists you
     provide for general user support (including URLs, archive
     sites, instructions, etc.)
	Mandrake-russian mailing list
	Mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru
	http://altlinux.ru/mailman/listinfo/mandrake-russian

	Sisyphus mailing list
	Sisyphus@altlinux.ru
	http://altlinux.ru/mailman/listinfo/sisyphus

22.  Please provide information on any public mailing lists that
     follow the development of your distribution (including URLs,
     archive sites, instructions, etc.).
	devel@linux.iplabs.ru

22.  Optional Formal Description:
	????

23.  Optional Comments (to provide information not covered above):
	????

24.  Survey Comments (e.g., questions you think we should have asked
     or suggested improvements for the existing questions):
	????

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