From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: From: Michael Shigorin To: ALT Linux Message-ID: <20011012093814.F2096@lic145.kiev.ua> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Subject: [mdk-re] I: LWN Distributions += ALT =?koi8-r?Q?Lin?= =?koi8-r?B?dXggLS0g2sHQz8zO0cXN?= survey Sender: mandrake-russian-admin@altlinux.ru Errors-To: mandrake-russian-admin@altlinux.ru X-BeenThere: mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Linux-Mandrake RE / ALT Linux discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Oct 12 10:41:03 2001 X-Original-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:38:14 +0300 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Здравствуйте. Вот -- по поводу включения ALT в LWN distributions list. Это их survey, которое я сперва заполнял, вставляя [FIXME], но их было столько, что повыкидывал ;) Прошу ваших комментариев, в особенности core team. ----- Forwarded message from cool@lwn.net ----- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:17:22 -0600 From: cool@lwn.net To: Michael Shigorin Subject: Re: LWN Distributions += ALT Linux (aka Linux-Mandrake RE) Cc: Becky Sobol User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i I've attached a blank copy of the survey. If you get a chance to fill it out, direct it to "lwn@lwn.net" and possibly copy ris@lwn.net. That is Rebecca Sobol's address. She is the one currently handling the Distributions page. Thanks for following up on this :-). Liz Coolbaugh (for the LWN team) cool@lwn.net LWN DISTRIBUTION SURVEY version 0.32 The LWN distribution survey is a tool to gather comparable information about Linux distributions. All provided surveys will be made publicly available in their entirety. They are dated, so that multiple versions of a survey for a specific distribution can exist, providing historical information. ______________________________________________________________________________ Survey Date: Name of person providing information: E-mail address: Connection with this distribution: (note, survey information from distribution creators/developers will replace information from other interested parties, wherever available.) 1. What is the name of your distribution? ALT Linux What is the website for your distribution? http://altlinux.ru (in Russian), http://alt-linux.org 2. What is the derivation of your distribution? _ SLS _ Slackware _ Jurix _ Red Hat _ Debian _ rolled from scratch X other (Please name: Linux-Mandrake) 2a. If you answered anything besides "rolled from scratch", do you still consider your distribution "tied" to its derivation, e.g., you release updates to your distribution based on updates from the original distribution? (formerly yes, now no) 2b. If you answered "rolled from scratch" or other, do you use a package management system? If yes, which one? RPM3 (now switching to 4) + apt-rpm 3. What languages do you support? Please list, including English, if appropriate. All that Mandrake 8 supported. Special emphasis is made on correct i18n. 4. Would you classify your distribution as a "mini"-distribution? (This is a very flexible term, covering Linux distributions sized for a floppy or smaller, up through CD or disk-based Linux distributions that are on the small size. It is more a matter of perception, in terms of whether you define the distribution partially by its small size compared to generic distributions like Debian, Red Hat, et al.) _ yes X no 4a. If you answered yes to the above, please mark any of the following that are applicable: _ CD-based, e.g., intended to be booted from and run directly from a CD without requiring a hard disk. _ Disk-based, small, but intended to be run from a hard disk. Presumably too large for a floppy. _ Floppy-based How many floppies for the base distribution? How many floppies for supported add-ons? _ Flash-disk-based _ Other Please explain: 5. Hardware Support. Please mark all the hardware platforms that your distribution supports. _ Alpha _ ARM _ IBM S/390 X Intel x86/Pentium _ IA64 _ NEC Mobile Gear PDAs _ Sparc _ Sparc64 _ PowerPC _ PowerPC G4 _ RS/6000 _ Microcontrollers _ Other, please list: 5a. For what hardware platforms do you provide optimized binaries, if any? i586 6. Why did you decide to produce a Linux distribution? Originally it was Linux-Mandrake Russian Edition by IPLabs Linux Team, but not all significant changes found their way back to Mandrake and the team went stronger. 7. What is the target audience for your distribution? There are 3 distinct distributions really: - generic (4CD last time: WS, server, devel, diverse package list); - desktop (1CD, office+games+multimedia, almost no -devel); - server (Castle, integrates RSBAC out-of-box, now beta3). Plus, apt-enabled unstable/current branch (Sisyphus). 8. Would you consider your distribution to be: X general purpose, e.g., useful for servers, desktops, and requiring tailoring for specific purposes. X special purpose, e.g., specifically tailored for a single functionality or a small group of functionalities. (see previous -- or should I split by branches?) 8a. If you consider your distribution to be special purpose, below are a list of possible purposes. Please check all that apply and add any that are missing: X Appliances, such as: X Communications Server X Router/Firewall X Web Cache X DOS/Windows support, via: X DOS partition X DOS/Windows install, separate boot _ Windows Users, accessible from Windows _ Diskless Terminal support X Education/Schools X Ease-of-use, for non-technical users _ Embedded Systems _ High-end and Cluster computing X Non-exportable crytographic support _ Older, slower hardware (pre-Pentium, for example) X Optimized performance _ Reduced memory usage X Rescue disk X Security _ Targeted user market, such as: _ ISPs _ E-commerce sites _ Highly Experienced, Technical users _ Physically challenged X other 9. Who are the primary developers for your distribution? Please provide email addresses. Dmitry V. Levin Sergey Vlasov Sergie Pugachev Sergey V Turchin Stanislav Ievlev Aleksey Smirnov Alexander Bokovoy Alexey Novodvorsky (AEN) Anton Farygin (Rider) Konstantin Volckov Kostya Timoshenko Alexey Voinov Sergey Bolshakov Mikhail Zabaluev Grigory Milev Sergei Aranovsky S. Budnevitch Ivan Zakharyaschev Lev Levitin Peter Novodvorsky Yury Zotov Дмитрий Левин: источник -- Ваше письмо в -devel насчет ключей для подписи пакетов в devel от Jun 19 2001. 9a. How many developers in total are working on the distribution? at least 21. 9b. How many of these developers are working full-time? 10 (counting people from official ALT) 10. Is there a packaged or commercial version of your distribution for sale? if so, please gives the names and URL's of the company or companies that provide it. Yes, every distribution can be ordered on CDs (even unstable snapshots) as well as downloaded; Castle and next generic distribution (Master 1.0) are supposed to get official support for boxed versions. It can be ordered at http://bolero.ru Internet shop, as well as purchased at a number of local software/hardware stores. Russian page on this topic is: http://altlinux.ru/?module=buy-inet . 11. What other Linux distributions do you consider to be most similar in design goals and target audience? Linux-Mandrake, ASP Linux (http://asplinux.ru) 12. What version of the kernel are you currently shipping? 2.4.5 in last release (Junior 1.1), 2.4.10 (patched) in Sisyphus (unstable). 13. What C libraries are you supporting: _ a.out _ glibc X glibc2 13a. Which C library is the default for your builds? (Check only one): (Note, we have distributions on the list whose primary reason for existing is to support older libraries -- this is meant to be a check for such a distribution). _ a.out (libc4) _ glibc (libc5) X glibc2 (libc6) 14. How large is your default installation? Depends on free disk space and distribution. Minimal installation is ~ 150-200M (народ, ПОПРАВЬТЕ!!!) 15. How many packages are provided, including both default and optional packages? Spring 2001 offered 1591 package; current Sisyphus (which is the source for new packages) has XXXX of them. 16. Is there a paid support service available? Yes. For boxed Castle (server) it will be included in box price. 17. If appropriate, in what area, geographically, are the developers and/or company located? The headquarters are in Moscow, Russia; one of the core developers resides in Minsk, Belarus. 18. When was your distribution first made available on the Internet? Near to Linux-Mandrake 6.0. 18a. If it is available on CD, when was it first made available on CD? The same time 18c. When was it first publicly announced? ???? 19. Do you have any documentable statistics on usage that you could share? Such as downloads, commercial box sales, etc. ???? 20. Does this distribution conform to the Linux Standards Base as published so far or the File Hierarchy Standard? Yes 20a. If your distribution only partially conforms with the LSB/FHS, please describe what portions it conforms with and in what instances it does not conform (and why, if you wish to give that background). ???? 21. Please provide information on any public mailing lists you provide for general user support (including URLs, archive sites, instructions, etc.) Mandrake-russian mailing list Mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru http://altlinux.ru/mailman/listinfo/mandrake-russian Sisyphus mailing list Sisyphus@altlinux.ru http://altlinux.ru/mailman/listinfo/sisyphus 22. Please provide information on any public mailing lists that follow the development of your distribution (including URLs, archive sites, instructions, etc.). devel@linux.iplabs.ru 22. Optional Formal Description: ???? 23. Optional Comments (to provide information not covered above): ???? 24. Survey Comments (e.g., questions you think we should have asked or suggested improvements for the existing questions): ???? ----- End forwarded message ----- -- WBR, Michael Shigorin -- webmaster@www.chem.univ.kiev.ua >Home Page: http://visa.chem.univ.kiev.ua/~mike/ ICQ: 113344029 >Brainbench: http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=2434729