From: HB trying to survive under Linux <npecca@yahoo.com> To: Aleksey Novodvorsky <mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru> Subject: Re: [mdk-re] mandrake-russian without... Russian Date: Thu Aug 16 23:29:10 2001 Message-ID: <20010816233016.A2204@hb.ant-on.net> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20010816181106.37483571.aen@altlinux.ru>; from aen@altlinux.ru on Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 06:11:06PM +0400 Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 06:11:06PM +0400, Aleksey Novodvorsky wrote: > Dlja raboty v russkoj srede nuzhno vybrat' russikij yazyk pri > ustanovke. Ja proboval eto jeshche do togo, kak napisat' v etot mail list. Resultat, kak v toj reklame, prevzoshel ozhidanija. Nastol'ko prevzoshel, chto ja snes Linux, postavlennyj s Russkim `jazykom', cherez 1 chas k chertovoi materi :-) > Togda u vas ne vozniknet problem. Uvy, togda voznikaet massa drugih problem. > Potom, pri zhelanii, mozhno otmenit' russkie soobshenija, ob etom > napisano v FAQ na http://www.altlinux.ru Ja ne chital toj chasti FAQ, o k-roj vy govorite, no ubrat' russkije soobshchenija dogadalsja. (zadav $LANG = $LANGUAGE = en_US). I wish it had helped :-( Kogda ja, pri vseh russkih ustanovkah, zapustil pod KDE Netscape, on vydal mne (kak ja dogadalsja) tipa litsenzionnoje soglashenije. Tol'ko na shvabsko-mogikanskom jazyke (aka Krjakozjabry :) Ja by pljunul na eto, vsjo ravno chitat' tam nechego. Beda byla v tom, chto ja dolzhen byl nazhat' knopku, 1 iz 2, na 1-j nadpis' tipa (*&^$# a na drugoj -- )&%#%^ Tol'ko, konechno, ne ASCII-simvolami, a latinitsej s umljautami, shljapkami i t. p. Zagadka dlja smyshljonnyh mal'chikov -- kakaja iz knopok oznachajet "I agree", a kakaja "Get off" -- okazalas' mne ne po zubam. No eto tsvetochki, t. k., uzhe zadav $LANG=$LANGUAGE=en_US i podumav "Fooooh. Nakonets-to...", ya zashel v katalog tipa .../squid/errors/ i obnaruzhil tam bezobrazije. Fail README soobshchal, chto mol "thanks a lot to Mr. Vasya Petrov, who translated error messages to Russian". I taki da, vse .html faily s oshibkami (access denied, naprimer) byli na russkom. Posle takogo der'ma, kakim mne udruzhil Mr. Petrov, ja snes Linux v mgnovenije oka, posle chego postavil _snova_ normal'no, t. e. s US English-nastrojkami. Ja napisal '_snova_', t. k., ne buduchi durakom, ja postavil Linux v 1-j raz s US Eng ustanovkami, lish' zatem s Russian (tipa "a vdrug moj vnutrennij golos obmanyvajet, i eto srabotajet"), a teper' vot opyat' s US Eng. > Klaviatura ru_cplk est' v dvuh variantah: KOI8-R i CP1251 (v > otlichie ot X-klaviatury, konsol'naya zavisit ot kodirovki), > sootvetstvenno v /etc/sysconfig/keyboard nyzhno napisat' > ru_cplk-KOI8-R ili ru_cplk-CP1251. Ja sdelal, kak vy skazali: # diff ~/keyboard.OLD /etc/sysconfig/keyboard 2c2 < KEYTABLE=ru_cplk --- > KEYTABLE=ru_cplk-KOI8-R # Zarabotalo! :) Spasibo! > Odnako, bez russkih ustanovok > konsol'nyh shriftov eto bessmyslenno. Ne soglasen. Russifikatsija klaviatury i ekrana -- nezavisimyje i dazhe, v opredelennom smysle, ortogonal'nyje veshchi. Tak kak teper' mne sdelat' 2-ju chast' Marmezonskogo baleta i poluchit' russkije konsol'nyje shrifty? > Ja sovetuju Vam povtorit' ustanovku, vybrav russkij _yazyk_. No THANKS. I'd rather stop speaking Russian. -- HB ``All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less.'' -me, circa 1995 ``Still it sucks more than any e-mail client _I_'ve ever seen'' -hb, today
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-16 23:29 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2001-08-16 17:10 HB trying to survive under Linux 2001-08-16 18:05 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-16 23:29 ` HB trying to survive under Linux [this message] 2001-08-17 15:09 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-17 15:13 ` [mdk-re] ïÐÃÉÉ ÓÂÏÒËÉ Samba Sergei Makarov 2001-08-19 22:31 ` [mdk-re] ÷Ï ÄÎÉ ÔÑÇÏÓÔÎÙÈ ÒÁÚÄÕÍÉÊ É ÍÕÞÅÎÉÊ Ó Linux ÔÙ ÏÄÉÎ ÍÎÅ ÐÏÄÄÅÒÖËÁ É ÏÐÏÒÁ HB trying to survive under Linux 2001-08-19 22:35 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] ÷? ??? ????????? ???????? ? ??????? ? Linux?????? ??? ??????????????? Sergei 2001-08-19 23:45 ` [mdk-re] " Romul 2001-08-20 13:00 ` [mdk-re] mandrake-russian without... Russian Henri Bourbon 2001-08-20 13:27 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2001-08-20 13:43 ` cornet 2001-08-20 14:13 ` Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-21 15:37 ` Re[2]: " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-20 14:27 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] почтовый клиент Sergey S. Skulachenko 2001-08-20 15:45 ` [mdk-re] mandrake-russian without... Russian Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-20 20:02 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Convenient mail client Henri Bourbon 2001-08-20 20:49 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-20 21:36 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-20 23:03 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 15:03 ` Re[2]: " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 16:24 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-21 16:37 ` Volkov Serge 2001-08-21 16:52 ` Andriy Dobrovol's'kii 2001-08-21 16:42 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 19:53 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Mozilla, ÐÌÁ×ÎÏ ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÑÝÉÊ × ÉÄÅÏÌÏÇÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÓÐÏÒÙ Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 20:17 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Mozilla, плавно переходящий в идеологические споры Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-21 20:22 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-21 22:45 ` [mdk-re] Mozilla, плавно переходящий в идеологическиеспоры Sergei 2001-08-21 23:52 ` [mdk-re] Mozilla, плавно переходящий в идеологические споры cornet 2001-08-22 0:14 ` [mdk-re] [JT] ...идеологические споры Баталов Григорий 2001-08-22 7:06 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Mozilla, плавно переходящий в идеологические споры Sergey Sokolov 2001-08-22 16:18 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-23 0:38 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Romul 2001-08-23 16:40 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-23 20:12 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov 2001-08-24 11:04 ` Vladimir Karpinsky 2001-08-24 19:01 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-24 19:01 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-24 21:08 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-25 14:27 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-25 22:53 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-25 23:31 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-26 0:25 ` [mdk-re] [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Aleksandr Blohin 2001-08-26 2:14 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-26 17:25 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-27 0:45 ` [JT] " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-27 1:11 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-27 17:01 ` Romul 2001-08-27 20:57 ` [mdk-re] JT: Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-27 21:29 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-23 7:27 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov 2001-08-23 9:05 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Mozilla, ÐÌÁ×ÎÏ ÐÅÒÅÈÏÄÑÝÉÊ × ÉÄÅÏÌÏÇÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÓÐÏÒÙ îÏ×ÏÍÌÉÎÓËÉÊ éÇÏÒØ 2001-08-23 11:25 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Mozilla, плавно переходящий в идеологические споры John Profic 2001-08-23 14:28 ` John Profic 2001-08-24 0:25 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-22 1:56 ` [mdk-re] Convenient mail client Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-22 0:01 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-21 14:27 ` Re[4]: [mdk-re] " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 14:44 ` cornet 2001-08-21 15:02 ` cornet 2001-08-21 15:08 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 15:22 ` cornet 2001-08-21 15:34 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 16:00 ` Andriy Dobrovol's'kii 2001-08-21 16:06 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 16:21 ` Andriy Dobrovol's'kii 2001-08-21 16:34 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 17:02 ` Andriy Dobrovol's'kii 2001-08-21 17:12 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 17:45 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-21 17:52 ` Andriy Dobrovol's'kii 2001-08-21 16:23 ` cornet 2001-08-21 16:37 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 17:12 ` Volkov Serge 2001-08-21 17:34 ` cornet 2001-08-22 1:56 ` Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-21 17:51 ` Re[2]: " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 17:58 ` cornet 2001-08-27 23:45 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Netscape Messenger, The Bat & POP3 authentication Henri Bourbon 2001-08-28 1:56 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 17:07 ` [mdk-re] " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-28 17:35 ` cornet 2001-08-22 15:20 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Convenient mail client Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 22:24 ` [mdk-re] [JT] " Sergei 2001-08-22 1:56 ` [mdk-re] " Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-21 15:02 ` Re[4]: " Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-21 17:38 ` Re[6]: " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-22 15:18 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-22 9:01 ` Re[4]: " Maxim Mitrofanov 2001-08-21 16:48 ` Re[4]: [mdk-re] Sylpheed: "code conversion failed" & other troubles Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 16:54 ` Alexander Kubatkin 2001-08-21 16:56 ` Alexander Kubatkin 2001-08-21 17:19 ` Sergey S. Skulachenko 2001-08-27 18:26 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-27 18:49 ` Баталов Григорий 2001-08-27 19:55 ` [mdk-re] перенос цитат в mutt AT 2001-08-28 0:44 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksandr Blohin 2001-08-28 0:50 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-30 10:07 ` Michael Shigorin 2001-08-31 0:00 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 16:06 ` [mdk-re] Sylpheed: цитирование Henri Bourbon 2001-08-27 18:50 ` [mdk-re] Sylpheed: "code conversion failed" & other troubles Artem K. Jouravsky 2001-08-28 18:43 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-21 17:39 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-27 17:37 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-27 18:06 ` cornet 2001-08-27 18:09 ` Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-27 22:23 ` Andrey Brindeew 2001-08-21 18:29 ` Re[4]: " Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-27 17:40 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-20 22:08 ` [mdk-re] Convenient mail client AT 2001-08-22 1:56 ` Re[2]: " Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-22 2:38 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-22 3:40 ` [mdk-re] Mutt Was: " S. Budnevitch 2001-08-19 23:26 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Во дни тягостных раздумий и мучений с Linux ты один мне поддержка и опора cornet 2001-08-21 17:54 [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Free soft 4 win Roman S 2001-08-21 18:00 ` cornet 2001-08-27 22:36 ` [mdk-re] [JT] [Конкретный JT] [Откровенное словоблудство] Convenient mail client Henri Bourbon 2001-08-27 22:50 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-28 2:02 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-Ï] " Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-28 9:07 ` [mdk-re] JT (Was: Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-о] Convenient mail client) Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-28 10:34 ` [mdk-re] About IT Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-28 16:26 ` JT " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-28 15:49 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-о] Convenient mail client Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-28 15:59 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-Ï] " Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 13:14 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-о] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-29 14:23 ` [mdk-re] JT UI Toolkits (was: Convenient mail client) Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-29 15:02 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-29 15:31 ` Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-29 15:38 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 23:39 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-30 10:01 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-31 1:34 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-30 14:45 ` Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-31 0:28 ` Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-29 14:35 ` [mdk-re] Motif, X11 and history Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-28 19:37 ` [mdk-re] Convenient mail client Henri Bourbon 2001-08-29 6:33 ` Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov 2001-08-29 10:55 ` [mdk-re] JT: UNIX cornerstones Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 13:48 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-29 14:52 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 16:46 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-29 17:54 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 19:15 ` Gosha 2001-08-29 22:42 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 19:12 ` Gosha 2001-08-29 22:40 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-28 9:07 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] [JT] [Конкретный JT] [Откровенное словоблудство] Convenient mail client Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-28 19:39 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-27 22:58 ` [mdk-re] [JT] " Andrey Brindeew 2001-08-28 1:07 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 19:23 ` [mdk-re] " Henri Bourbon 2001-08-28 19:39 ` Vyt 2001-08-29 15:26 ` Dmitry Samoyloff 2001-08-30 10:41 ` Alex Savvin 2001-08-28 7:08 ` Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov 2001-08-28 10:23 ` Andrey Brindeew 2001-08-28 19:15 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-28 19:36 ` Andrey Brindeew 2001-08-28 19:47 ` cornet 2001-08-28 21:09 ` Gosha 2001-08-29 15:16 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-29 15:35 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 15:48 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-29 16:14 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 16:25 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-29 17:57 ` Yuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 15:50 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2001-08-29 16:10 ` Mikhail Nikitin 2001-08-29 16:44 ` Alexander Bokovoy 2001-08-29 17:15 ` Sergey S. Skulachenko 2001-08-29 20:11 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov 2001-08-29 20:22 ` Alexander Bokovoy 2001-08-29 17:00 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2001-08-30 11:37 ` [mdk-re] [JT] PHP-ÏÔÌÁÄÞÉË (ÂÙÌÏ: Convenient mail client) Sergei Makarov 2001-08-29 19:28 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Convenient mail client John Profic 2001-08-29 15:26 ` Dmitry Samoyloff 2001-08-29 13:34 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 0:23 ` [mdk-re] [JT] [Конкретный JT] [Откровенное словоблудство] " cornet 2001-08-28 11:14 ` Artem K. Jouravsky 2001-08-28 11:25 ` cornet 2001-08-28 11:30 ` Artem K. Jouravsky 2001-08-28 16:06 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2001-08-28 20:01 ` Henri Bourbon 2001-08-28 20:13 ` cornet 2001-08-28 1:45 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 21:26 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Название клавиш на клавиатуре и трёп, трёп, трёп Henri Bourbon 2001-08-29 0:27 ` [mdk-re] [JT] îÁÚ×ÁÎÉÅ ËÌÁ×ÉÛ ÎÁ ËÌÁ×ÉÁÔÕÒÅ É ÔÒ£Ð, ÔÒ£Ð, ÔңРYuri Ryazantsev 2001-08-29 14:26 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Название клавиш на клавиатуре и трёп, трёп, трёп Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 1:48 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] [Конкретный JT] [Откровенное словоблудство] Convenient mail client Mikhail Zabaluev 2001-08-28 18:36 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-28 20:29 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] [JT] [ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÙÊ JT] [ïÔËÒÏ×ÅÎÎÏÅ ÓÌÏ×ÏÂÌÕÄÓÔ×Ï] " Serge Skorokhodov 2001-08-28 20:50 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] [JT] [Конкретный JT] [Откровенное словоблудство] " Sergey Vlasov 2001-08-21 18:07 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Free soft 4 win Sergey Degtyaryov 2001-08-21 18:25 ` Alexandr Zhegallo 2001-08-21 18:31 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
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