From: "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@fandra.org>
To: Linux-Mandrake Russian Edition Mailing List
<mandrake-russian@linuxteam.iplabs.ru>
Subject: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] О почте и т.п.
Date: Sat Dec 30 02:36:00 2000
Message-ID: <20001230023902.A21069@LDV.fandra.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1431231693.20001229205921@otstavnov.com>; from maksim@otstavnov.com on Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:59:21PM +0300
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On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 08:59:21PM +0300, Maksim Otstavnov wrote:
> AN> то СОРМ неизбежен в принципе,
>
> "СОРМ" есть следствие технических изъянов инфраструктуры и подлости
> провайдеров, никакого иного содержания в ней нет. Включите S/WAN по
> умолчанию при установке MDK - внесете лепту в совершенствование
> инфраструктуры. А нет - так что это обсуждать - опять останутся
> виноваты ФАПСИ, ФСБ, NSA, трехсторонняя коммисия и жидомасоны - кто
> угодно, только не мы ;)
Я приложил немало усилий к тому, чтобы в дистрибутив, который мы планируем
выпустить в январе, вошло большинство средств, реально используемых и
развиваемых linux-сообществом в плане как увеличения степени надежности
системы (system security), так и увеличения степени защищенности
информации (information security); надеюсь, что эти конкретные свободные
решения помогут в решении проблемы безопасности тем администраторам и
пользователям, которые в этом заинтересованы. К сожалению, в этом
отношении "культура безопасности", если так можно выразиться, среди
пользователей компьютерной техники еще очень низка. В сопроводительной
документации (которую, как правило, никто не читает), мы постараемся
немного ориентировать пользователя в этих вопросах, применительно к тому
дистрибутиву gnu/linux, который он планирует установить.
Что касается конкретно FreeS/WAN (IPsec), то уже в Sisyphus вы можете
видеть поддержку IPsec в ядре (в виде модулей), а также средства по
администрированию (пакет freeswan-utils) и достаточно подробную
документацию. В связи со спецификой настройки, как Вы понимаете, мы пока
не можем включить IPsec по умолчанию в ходе инсталляции операционной
системы.
Безусловно, конкретные предложения и пожелания по этому и другим вопросам
на эту тему я буду внимательно рассматривать.
Regards,
Dmitry
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2000-12-29 17:19 [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] ï ÐÏÞÔÅ É Ô.Ð Roman S
2000-12-29 17:48 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] О почте и т.п Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-29 18:17 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-29 19:22 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-29 21:00 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-29 21:26 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-30 13:40 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-30 14:21 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-30 18:18 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-30 18:39 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-30 20:56 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-30 21:14 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-30 21:52 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-31 7:58 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-31 13:22 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-31 15:25 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-31 17:39 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-31 17:56 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2000-12-31 16:57 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Alexander Bokovoy
2000-12-31 17:54 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-31 18:00 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-01 12:36 ` [mdk-re] " Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-01 22:58 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-02 0:14 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-02 2:13 ` [mdk-re] " Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-02 2:28 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-02 17:36 ` [mdk-re] Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-02 21:21 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О почте и т.п Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-02 21:49 ` [mdk-re] Re[8]: ï ÐÏÞÔÅ É Ô.Ð äÙÍÙÞ
2001-01-02 21:55 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[8]: О почте и т.п Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-03 12:15 ` [mdk-re] New distribution Andrei Gerasimenko
2001-01-03 12:18 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 13:05 ` Andrei Gerasimenko
2001-01-03 13:13 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 18:53 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 19:47 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 20:23 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 23:30 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 0:35 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-04 1:07 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 11:08 ` Re[2]: " Vladimir V. Karpinsky
2001-01-04 11:19 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-04 11:23 ` Re[2]: " Vladimir V. Karpinsky
2001-01-04 11:25 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-04 13:26 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 14:28 ` Igor Fadin
2001-01-04 11:44 ` Re[2]: " Dmitry
2001-01-04 13:31 ` Sergey Sokolov
2001-01-04 13:54 ` Pavel N. Solovyov
2001-01-04 16:08 ` Sergey Sokolov
2001-01-04 13:03 ` Andrei Gerasimenko
2001-01-04 13:20 ` Pavel N. Solovyov
2001-01-04 13:30 ` Re[4]: " Vladimir V. Karpinsky
2001-01-04 13:35 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-04 13:51 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 7:22 ` rider
2001-01-04 13:35 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-04 13:52 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 13:17 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 13:12 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 12:21 ` AB
2001-01-03 12:24 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 13:14 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 13:28 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 13:35 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 13:39 ` Anton Farygin
2001-01-03 23:53 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2001-01-03 18:53 ` Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 19:34 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 7:20 ` rider
2001-01-03 20:01 ` Igor Solovyov
2001-01-03 23:56 ` Andrei Gerasimenko
2001-01-04 0:00 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-05 8:24 ` Dmitry Samoyloff
2001-01-03 21:12 ` Alexey Voinov
2001-01-02 23:22 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re:[mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О почте и т.п Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 1:05 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 1:41 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re:[mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О почте ит.п Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 15:07 ` [mdk-re] " Peter Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 15:55 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re]Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Peter Novodvorsky
2001-01-03 16:07 ` Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-03 18:53 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re]Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 18:53 ` [mdk-re] print lib issue (Was: Re[2]: [mdk-re] ...О почте ит.п.) Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 20:27 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-03 2:42 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О почте и т.п Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-03 18:53 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-12 21:47 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]ï ÐÏÞÔÅ É Ô.Ð Serge Skorokhodov
2001-01-12 22:05 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О почте и т.п Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-12 22:10 ` [mdk-re] " Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-03 12:28 ` [mdk-re] О " Andrei Gerasimenko
2001-01-04 17:30 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re:[mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]:[mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re]О " Maxim Podorov
2001-01-04 17:44 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 18:08 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-30 20:56 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] О " Maksim Otstavnov
2000-12-30 21:16 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 13:45 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] ï ÐÏÞÔÅ É Ô.Ð Roman Ivanov
2001-01-04 14:12 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] О почте и т.п Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-04 16:51 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-05 12:48 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev
2001-01-05 13:19 ` Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-05 16:42 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-05 20:06 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-05 20:18 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-01-05 20:57 ` Alexander Bokovoy
2001-01-04 14:37 ` [mdk-re] Re[3]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-01-04 14:47 ` cornet
2001-01-09 15:08 ` [mdk-re] Re: Re[2]: " Dmitry A. Povarov
2001-01-10 13:21 ` Dmitry A. Povarov
2000-12-30 2:36 ` Dmitry V. Levin [this message]
2000-12-30 0:46 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] ï ÐÏÞÔÅ É Ô.Ð Roman S
2000-12-30 20:57 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] О почте и т.п Mikhail Zabaluev
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