From: admin <admin@profitm.ru>
To: mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru
Subject: Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Взгляд со стороны
Date: Tue Mar 19 10:45:12 2002
Message-ID: <02031910452002.03247@ns.profitm.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020319102953.4763f8ac.shamus.gal@mtu-net.ru>
On Tuesday 19 March 2002 10:29, you wrote:
> Здравствуйте.
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:45:15 +0300
>
> ROmul <romul.home@mtu-net.ru> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:00:14 +0300
> > AVL <avl@l14.ru> wrote:
<skip>
> А людям, которым не нужна супергибкость - вообще ничего не нужно
> в обозначенном выше контексте. Они Потребители. Open Source не
> может и не должно подстраиваться под Потребителя, потому что суть
> движения противоречит интересам Потребителя.
>
> > Линукс имеет возможность подстраиваться под конъюктуру рынка
> > моментально... Наличие выбора, разве это не один из лозунгов
>
> Видимо, все-таки не имеет. Коньюнктура рынка предполагает, что
> "клиент всегда прав, ведь он же вам платит ..."
Практически со всем согласен,
но то что програмный продукт должен быть удобным помоему бесспорно
Если же продукт не удобен, то он должен иметь массу других преимуществ,
иначе никто им пользоваться не будет, во всяком случае как ежедневно
применяемым инструментом.
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2002-03-15 6:38 [mdk-re] ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ îÏ×ÏÍÌÉÎÓËÉÊ éÇÏÒØ
2002-03-15 9:45 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] [JT] Взгляд со стороны Roman S
2002-03-15 13:16 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-15 14:29 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " ROmul
2002-03-15 15:28 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] JT " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-15 16:38 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-15 16:49 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-15 16:26 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-15 16:51 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-15 19:48 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-15 23:15 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-17 16:06 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-15 22:09 ` ROmul
2002-03-16 1:12 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-16 2:05 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 2:00 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 10:02 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-16 12:41 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 13:21 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-16 13:39 ` ROmul
2002-03-16 14:53 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-17 1:06 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 9:14 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 15:05 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 15:39 ` Anatoly A. Yakushin
2002-03-18 16:17 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 16:43 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-18 17:40 ` ROmul
2002-03-18 17:46 ` [mdk-re] " Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-19 12:06 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 12:37 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-19 13:37 ` [mdk-re] [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:20 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-19 13:55 ` [mdk-re] " Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-19 13:51 ` [mdk-re] RE: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " ROmul
2002-03-19 12:05 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 17:11 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-18 16:18 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-18 17:29 ` [mdk-re] " Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-18 17:50 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-18 18:11 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] RE: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Sergey S. Skulachenko
2002-03-18 19:24 ` [mdk-re] RE: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-18 17:58 ` [mdk-re] " Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-19 12:20 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:02 ` Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-18 17:58 ` [mdk-re] RE: [mdk-re] " ROmul
2002-03-19 12:19 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 13:48 ` ROmul
2002-03-19 14:41 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 15:50 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-19 17:14 ` [mdk-re] " Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-19 17:54 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-20 8:54 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-20 14:10 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-20 15:23 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-21 9:12 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-21 9:40 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-21 9:48 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-21 10:05 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-21 10:10 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-21 11:17 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-21 12:22 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] [mdk-re] Re: Linuxoffice " Andriy Dobrovol's'kii
2002-03-21 10:16 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office " Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-21 11:15 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-21 12:20 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-21 10:14 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-22 2:37 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-23 10:14 ` [mdk-re] ошибка при сборке ядра из сизифа Dmitry S Kiselev
2002-03-23 10:33 ` Dmitry S Kiselev
2002-03-19 18:15 ` [mdk-re] [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Andriy Dobrovol's'kii
2002-03-20 2:24 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 10:45 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-21 2:12 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 10:10 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:14 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 10:42 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 12:25 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 18:21 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) ROmul
2002-03-20 2:23 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 10:43 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 12:07 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 12:20 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 13:50 ` ROmul
2002-03-19 14:42 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:07 ` Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-18 20:05 ` [mdk-re] " Anatoly A. Yakushin
2002-03-19 11:04 ` Vyt
2002-03-19 11:29 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Russu V.F.
2002-03-19 11:47 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Linux office solution Vyt
2002-03-19 13:03 ` Russu V.F.
2002-03-19 11:31 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) AVL
2002-03-19 14:48 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 17:06 ` AVL
2002-03-19 17:15 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 17:09 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution Vyt
2002-03-19 17:20 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 18:30 ` ROmul
2002-03-19 19:54 ` Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-19 20:06 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-20 6:27 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Alexey Morozov
2002-03-19 11:46 ` Peter V. Saveliev
2002-03-19 14:41 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 6:28 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Alexey Morozov
2002-03-19 12:02 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-19 12:44 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Linux office solution Vyt
2002-03-19 14:13 ` Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 15:26 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 20:29 ` Re[2]: " Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 20:43 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 22:26 ` Re[2]: " Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 15:51 ` Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 12:33 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 16:22 ` Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 23:10 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:25 ` Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-19 14:49 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-19 16:12 ` Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-19 17:49 ` AVL
2002-03-20 8:55 ` Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-19 15:34 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-20 6:27 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-19 13:03 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Russu V.F.
2002-03-19 14:11 ` [mdk-re] " Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-20 10:46 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 11:17 ` Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-19 12:46 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 13:36 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:41 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Re: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 6:27 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Alexey Morozov
2002-03-20 22:49 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Re: Linux office solution(was: " Vitaly Lipatov
2002-03-19 13:44 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Linux office solution Vyt
2002-03-19 15:01 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 16:09 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-19 16:23 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 17:06 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-20 2:23 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 3:14 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 20:26 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 20:40 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 20:26 ` [mdk-re] to pay or not to pay (was: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ)) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 20:37 ` [mdk-re] to pay or not to pay (was: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны)) Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 22:26 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] to pay or not to pay (was: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ)) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 23:29 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] to pay or not to pay (was: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны)) Любимов А.В.
2002-03-20 11:30 ` [mdk-re] " Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-20 13:55 ` AVL
2002-03-20 14:38 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-20 15:41 ` AVL
2002-03-20 16:41 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-20 17:19 ` AVL
2002-03-20 15:54 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Artem Pastuchov
2002-03-20 16:17 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-20 2:23 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-20 10:46 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 13:11 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Denis G. Samsonenko
2002-03-20 6:27 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Alexey Morozov
2002-03-20 10:35 ` Antonio
2002-03-20 10:57 ` AVL
2002-03-20 12:06 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-20 11:45 ` [mdk-re] right thing vs. good enough (was: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ)) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 12:24 ` [mdk-re] right thing vs. good enough (was: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны)) Alexey Morozov
2002-03-20 16:27 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] right thing vs. good enough (was: Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ)) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 11:45 ` Re[4]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-20 12:36 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Andriy Dobrovol's'kii
2002-03-20 13:46 ` [mdk-re] " Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-20 16:27 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 13:05 ` Denis G. Samsonenko
2002-03-19 14:00 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: чЪЗМСД УП УФПТПОЩ) Vyt
2002-03-19 15:13 ` [mdk-re] Re[4]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-20 10:49 ` [mdk-re] " Vyt
2002-03-20 12:27 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: Þÿúíóä õð õæðôðïý) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 14:13 ` Re[3]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 13:50 ` [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) ROmul
2002-03-19 15:09 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-19 16:22 ` Sergey Vlasov
2002-03-19 15:31 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 6:25 ` [mdk-re] " Alexey Morozov
2002-03-20 11:45 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Linux office solution (was: ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-19 12:05 ` [mdk-re] Re: Linux office solution (was: Взгляд со стороны) Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 12:20 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 12:05 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-17 1:23 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Взглядсо стороны cornet
2002-03-18 9:14 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 10:33 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-16 15:08 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Взгляд со стороны Michael Shigorin
2002-03-16 15:40 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-16 16:32 ` Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-16 16:40 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-16 16:46 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 16:51 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-16 16:57 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 17:07 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-16 17:22 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 17:25 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-16 17:28 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 17:31 ` Korshunov Ilya
2002-03-16 19:29 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 20:51 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 21:51 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 21:54 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-16 23:02 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-18 13:09 ` [mdk-re] Re: Bonobo Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-19 11:58 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-19 14:17 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 22:37 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Взгляд со стороны Roman S
2002-03-18 9:14 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 10:15 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksandr Blohin
2002-03-18 12:39 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 15:04 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-17 1:07 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 9:14 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-18 15:05 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-16 22:45 ` [mdk-re] " Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-16 22:52 ` [mdk-re] " cornet
2002-03-17 0:43 ` Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-17 0:54 ` cornet
2002-03-18 9:14 ` [mdk-re] " Sergey Sokolov
2002-03-16 15:35 ` [mdk-re] " Konstantin Lepikhov
2002-03-15 16:37 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-15 19:53 ` Roman S
2002-03-15 16:39 ` Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-15 22:09 ` ROmul
2002-03-16 0:19 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-16 0:33 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 1:19 ` ROmul
2002-03-16 2:38 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 11:13 ` ROmul
2002-03-16 12:58 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-16 15:04 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-16 12:23 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-16 15:59 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-17 2:39 ` ROmul
2002-03-17 4:26 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-17 6:08 ` Alexey Morozov
2002-03-17 15:04 ` ROmul
2002-03-17 15:26 ` Gosha
2002-03-18 13:02 ` [mdk-re] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 1:08 ` ROmul
2002-03-18 10:15 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " AVL
2002-03-18 13:25 ` ROmul
2002-03-18 15:05 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 15:28 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2002-03-19 0:39 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-18 22:53 ` [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-18 22:57 ` Любимов А.В.
2002-03-18 23:08 ` Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-19 1:36 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Maksim Otstavnov
2002-03-19 12:21 ` [mdk-re] ifdown avl (was: [JT] Взгляд со стороны) Michael Shigorin
2002-03-19 14:41 ` [mdk-re] ifdown avl (was: [JT] ÷ÚÇÌÑÄ ÓÏ ÓÔÏÒÏÎÙ) Serge Skorokhodov
2002-03-18 15:12 ` [JT] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Взгляд со стороны Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-18 16:34 ` [mdk-re] [JT] " ROmul
2002-03-19 10:34 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Shur
2002-03-19 10:45 ` admin [this message]
2002-03-19 11:01 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev
2002-03-20 11:23 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Shur
2002-03-19 11:33 ` [mdk-re] RE: [JT] " Ilia Menchikh
2002-03-19 11:43 ` [mdk-re] " Tihonov Vladimir
2002-03-19 12:17 ` [mdk-re] " Artem K. Jouravsky
2002-03-19 13:35 ` Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 11:24 ` [mdk-re] " Shur
2002-03-19 13:08 ` [mdk-re] [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2002-03-20 8:06 ` Shur
2002-03-15 20:15 ` [mdk-re] " Alexandre Prokoudine
2002-03-15 20:53 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
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