From: community-en-request@altlinux.org
Subject: Community-en Digest, Vol 3, Issue 3
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Date sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:00:43 +0400 (MSD)
> international community site
Well, this WILL require to run the forum he... he...
Maybe then I will stop thinkin' about WTF I do use that distro (I mean ALT) for sooo long
time...
Well, I must explain myself.
I hate all the problems of different encodings in the mail messages, plus that everything is
mixed in the mail... And receiving a lot of emails is not fun. My mailbox is limited in size. I
don't like receiving a thousands of messages when I don't need them. So I have
unsubsribed from the russian community.
Folks, I am utmostly sure the thing that annoys me in ALT Linux *most* - is the
inexistence of Internet forum on it... And this should be easily repairable - just set up the
server... And install the IPB on it. Even me, a completely newbie managed to start up that
server after a couple of weeks - now our Institute has that forum on the intranet site,
running on my machine. Old Pentium-150, plus ALT Linux + Apache+ IPB... :)
Guys, why you don't even TRY to do it??? For a couple of months - to see if it will be
good? Are you sure that I (and many other folks) won't pay, say, a buck or two a month to
be able to post on it? Getting support on LRN forum is not fun, after all...
You need the moderators and you don't want to moderate? Well, I may try to do it.
You don't 'want to look the whole forum to see what's new? IPB does have the "New
messages" filter.
Of course, mailing-lists are the habit, I know. But it's the hackers' habit, you know. And
you're selling (or are trying to sell) the distros for common users.
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WBR, A Linux newbie,
Vadim Alexeenko, Institute of Cytology RAS
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 06:42:08PM +0400, vadim@mail.cytspb.rssi.ru wrote: > Folks, I am utmostly sure the thing that annoys me in ALT > Linux *most* - is the inexistence of Internet forum on it... > And this should be easily repairable - just set up the So go ahead and do it. It _was_ discussed (along with newsgroup) indeed. > And install the IPB on it. Even me, a completely newbie managed > to start up that server after a couple of weeks It's not hard to "set smth up". It's a bit harder to make it *really* work -- not technically, but as a *resource*. > Guys, why you don't even TRY to do it??? Because it sucks more. Believe me or not, I manage several MLs at linux.kiev.ua/lists.osdn.org.ua and we happen to have forums here. Forums are *much* more painstaking and happen to be more "dummish" in that regard that rare person able to answer the question will ever *see* it there. PS: I believe you could try to help Alexey Lubimov (avl@altlinux) with developing "public question" part of atmsk.ru forum. And it would be the best use for your energy I can imagine for now. :) -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
>> And this should be easily repairable - just set up the (server and forum) >So go ahead and do it. Ergh... Who will pay for bandwidth? I am not even a system administrator. Just plain "PhD in bilology". The maximum what I can do myself seems to be a moderator in such forum. Of course, I *can* try to speak to our Institute sys.admin about letting me run the "Linux for scientists" forum. Our IP's are "real". But most likely I will fail. Maybe not, don't know - till mid-Semptember, when our Institute will held the Sci.Council to discuss the WWW site design etc... Maybe there will be the place for such forum on the server. >It's a bit harder to make it *really* work -- not technically, but as a *resource*. >rare person able to answer the question will ever *see* it there It's a moderator's work, as far as I do understand it. Strict moderation, unregistered users can post only in special places... no "flame/flood/offtopic" section... > PS: I believe you could try to help Alexey Lubimov (avl@altlinux) > with developing "public question" part of atmsk.ru forum. And it Could you drop a couple of words - what should be done? Translation of some text to English, or what?
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:40:29PM +0400, vadim@mail.cytspb.rssi.ru wrote: > >> And this should be easily repairable - just set up the (server and forum) > >So go ahead and do it. > Ergh... Who will pay for bandwidth? I believe that useful resource can be hosted at ALT servers; in fact, they do provide hosting for significant number of free software projects. > I am not even a system administrator. Just plain "PhD in > bilology". The maximum what I can do myself seems to be a > moderator in such forum. It could be of some help, too. Not everything boils down to system administration and technical resources. > > It's a bit harder to make it *really* work -- not > > technically, but as a *resource*. rare person able to answer > > the question will ever *see* it there > It's a moderator's work, as far as I do understand it. Nope. > Strict moderation, unregistered users can post only in special > places... This helps only to decrease the noise, but not to increase the signal. > no "flame/flood/offtopic" section... It's a mistake IMQCO. > > PS: I believe you could try to help Alexey Lubimov > > (avl@altlinux) with developing "public question" part of > > atmsk.ru forum. > Could you drop a couple of words - what should be done? > Translation of some text to English, or what? Speak to him regarding that. He's busy reworking the site, though personally /me is more than happy with current state. -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/