From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa.int.altlinux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localhost Message-ID: <49C7AC43.3010102@solin.spb.ru> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:35:31 +0300 From: Aleksey Avdeev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080304) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=EB=D5=CC=D8=D4=D5=D2=CE=D9=CA_=CF=C6=D4=CF=D0=C9=CB?= References: <20090318153340.3456c6cb@alt_pavel.sesc.int> <47d79c570903230212k146e3ff2l20edec0d829d395@mail.gmail.com> <20090323155159.75076c86@alt_pavel.sesc.int> <20090323163839.297e57cf@alt_pavel.sesc.int> <49C79C2D.2000207@solin.spb.ru> <49C7A648.5060604@solin.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1A77DCC95F50540AC1426882" Subject: Re: [room] =?koi8-r?b?8M/Q2SDXzs/T0dQg09fPwCDMxdDU1SDXINDF3sHM2M7V?= =?koi8-r?b?wCDT1MHUydPUycvVIMfJwsXMySDMwMTFyiDOwSDEz9LPx8U=?= X-BeenThere: smoke-room@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Id: =?koi8-r?b?69XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:37:03 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1A77DCC95F50540AC1426882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mykola S. 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