From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Message-ID: <453F069A.6060204@stc.donpac.ru> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:39:22 +0400 From: Eugene Prokopiev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040808 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=CB=D5=CC=D8=D4=D5=D2=CE=D9=CA_=CF=C6=D4=CF=D0=C9=CB?= References: <20061022004752.0508b7a4@dhcppc0> <20061021202204.GD19700@localhost.localdomain> <20061023022000.56c4a1aa@dhcppc0> <20061022212822.GH7286@osdn.org.ua> <20061023082401.GC28347@localhost.localdomain> <20061023181954.GK28465@osdn.org.ua> <20061024015521.GE22262@localhost.localdomain> <453DD5D3.2090904@stc.donpac.ru> <20061024155705.GA3318@localhost.localdomain> <20061024193556.GB28465@osdn.org.ua> <20061025033715.GC31147@localhost.localdomain> <453F0283.5000100@stc.donpac.ru> In-Reply-To: <453F0283.5000100@stc.donpac.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Oct 25 10:39:22 2006 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9899 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 122,453f069a324681825313104 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, Received*Postfix+with, 0.01000, С, 0.01000, С, 0.01000, Content-Type*text+plain, 0.01000, User-Agent*ru-RU+rv, 0.01000, Received*ESMTP, 0.01000, Subject*Re+room, 0.01000, Content-Transfer-Encoding*8bit, 0.01000, To*культурный_офтопик, 0.01000, User-Agent*X11+U, 0.01000, To*smoke-room, 0.01000, это, 0.01000, Subject*room, 0.01000, User-Agent*U, 0.01000, Евгений, 0.01000, Content-Type*plain, 0.01000, Received*lists.altlinux.org, 0.01000, User-Agent*1.7.2, 0.01000, Content-Type*plain+charset, 0.01000, From*Prokopiev, 0.01000, Received*by+ats-manager.stc.donpac.ru, 0.01000, Received*with, 0.01000, From*Eugene+Prokopiev, 0.01000, Received*id, 0.01000, Received*ESMTP+id, 0.01000, Прокопьев, 0.01000, Received*192.168.46.2+prokopiev.stc.donpac.ru, 0.01000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [room] java off the rails X-BeenThere: smoke-room@lists.altlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?koi8-r?b?y9XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Id: =?koi8-r?b?y9XM2NTV0s7ZyiDPxtTP0MnL?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:39:23 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: Eugene Prokopiev =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > =E4=C5=CE=C9=D3 =F3=CD=C9=D2=CE=CF=D7 =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: >=20 >>On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 10:35:56PM +0300, Michael Shigorin wrote: >> >>MS> =F4=D9 =D4=C1=CB=C9 =C7=CC=D1=CE=D8 =CE=C1 =D2=C5=CC=D8=D3=D9. =F6= =C1=C2=C9=D3=D4=CF=D7 =C4=D5=DB=C9=D4 =D6=C1=C2=C1, =C4=C1 =C9 =CE=C5 =D4= =CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =C9=C8. >>MS> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-ruby/ >>MS> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-cb05096.html >> >>=F3=D5=C4=D1 =D0=CF =D4=D7=CF=C5=CA =CE=C1=D3=D4=CF=CA=DE=C9=D7=CF=D3=D4= =C9 =D7 =D0=D2=CF=D0=C1=C7=C1=CE=C4=C5 =D2=C5=CC=D8=D3=CF=D7 =D7=D3=C5-=D4= =C1=CB=C9 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =D3=CD=D9=D3=CC >>=D0=CF=D3=CD=CF=D4=D2=C5=D4=D8 :) =F3=D0=C1=D3=C9=C2=CF. >=20 >=20 > =F7=D9=C7=CC=D1=C4=C9=D4 =CC=C1=CB=CF=CE=C9=DE=CE=CF =C4=CF =C2=C5=DA=CF= =C2=D2=C1=DA=C9=D1 ;) >=20 > =EB=CF=CE=D4=D2=C1=D2=C7=D5=CD=C5=CE=D4=D9: >=20 > 1) =F3 =C4=C5=CA=D3=D4=D7=C9=D4=C5=CC=D8=CE=CF =C8=CF=D2=CF=DB=C5=CA =D0= =CF=C4=C4=C5=D2=D6=CB=CF=CA IDE =CD=CE=CF=C7=CF =CB=CF=C4=C1 =D0=C9=D3=C1= =D4=D8 =C9 =DE=C9=D4=C1=D4=D8 =CE=C5=20 > =D0=D2=CF=C2=CC=C5=CD=C1 :) > 2) =E5=D3=CC=C9 =D7=D3=C5-=D4=C1=CB=C9 =CE=C9=CB=C1=CB =C2=C5=DA =D3=C9= =CE=D4=C1=CB=D3=C9=D3=C1 Ruby, =D4=CF =DC=D4=CF =CE=C5 =D0=CF=D7=CF=C4 =CF= =D4=CB=C1=DA=D9=D7=C1=D4=D8=D3=D1=20 > JEE, =D0=CF=D3=CB=CF=CC=D8=CB=D5 =D4=C1=CD =C5=D3=D4=D8 JRuby :) =F0=D2=CF=CC=C9=D3=D4=C1=CC =D7=D4=CF=D2=D5=C0 =D3=D4=C1=D4=D8=C0 =C4=CF = =CB=CF=CE=C3=C1 - =D4=C1=CD, =CB=C1=CB =CE=C9 =D3=D4=D2=C1=CE=CE=CF, =D7=D9= =D7=CF=C4=D9 =D7 =D4=CF=CD =D6=C5=20 =C4=D5=C8=C5 :) =FE=D4=CF =CE=C1=D7=C5=D2=CE=D1=CB=C1 =CF=C2=DF=D1=D3=CE=D1= =C5=D4=D3=D1 =D4=C5=CD, =DE=D4=CF =D3=D4=C1=D4=D8=C9 - =C4=CC=D1=20 Java-=D0=D2=CF=C7=D2=C1=CD=CD=C9=D3=D4=CF=D7 ;) --=20 =F3 =D5=D7=C1=D6=C5=CE=C9=C5=CD, =F0=D2=CF=CB=CF=D0=D8=C5=D7 =E5=D7=C7=C5= =CE=C9=CA