----- Forwarded message from Paul Johnson ----- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:20:38 -0800 From: Paul Johnson To: psi-devel@lists.affinix.com Subject: Re: [Psi-devel] google federates X-String-ID: 39 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: baloo@ursine.ca X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on ursine.ca) On Tuesday 17 January 2006 10:12, Michal Kochanowicz wrote: > Don't be kidding. How many times you do something like this? I've 10-20 > spammers daily from ICQ transport and I don't want to have such > situation on Jabber. I solved this one by letting everybody on my ICQ list know I was tired of trying to figure out what number belonged to who whenever ICQ got tired of keeping the names I set and the problems the ICQ transports were having with ICQ for a while, showed them how to switch, and eliminated ICQ from my circle of contacts. I've since done that with MSN and Yahoo, I'm currently in the process of getting the last 19 people on my AIM list to quit holding out. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): baloo@ursine.ca Got Jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber _______________________________________________ psi-devel mailing list psi-devel@lists.affinix.com http://lists.affinix.com/listinfo.cgi/psi-devel-affinix.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Paul Johnson ----- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:30:04 -0800 From: Paul Johnson To: psi-devel@lists.affinix.com Subject: Re: [Psi-devel] google federates X-String-ID: 39 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: baloo@ursine.ca X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on ursine.ca) On Tuesday 17 January 2006 11:20, Michal Kochanowicz wrote: > I did. The answer is always the same: "everybody uses GG, you go install > this." :( As for now I have three contacts on ICQ (+over dozen spammers > daily) - it used to be much much more, one on Jabber. Instant messaging > sucks these days :( Ask them what the world would be like if SMTP never unified email and ask them for GG's RFC number in the IETF standards. :o) -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): baloo@ursine.ca Got Jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber _______________________________________________ psi-devel mailing list psi-devel@lists.affinix.com http://lists.affinix.com/listinfo.cgi/psi-devel-affinix.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Maciek Niedzielski ----- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:24:06 +0100 From: Maciek Niedzielski To: Psi Development Subject: Re: [Psi-devel] google federates X-String-ID: 39 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Michal Kochanowicz wrote: >>> Still I think that problem with spam (don't you get any?) is far more >>> common than with being overpopular. >> I get more unneeded auth requests than spam. And the only spam I get is >> from GG transport, and I don't think s2s could solve much here. > > I get spam from ICQ but I'm afraid same will happen if Jabber ever gets > more popular. It's "a bit" easier to guess a valid ICQ "id" than a valid JID. >>> I'm damn tired of spam (I get many times more spam than legitimate >>> messages) and I welcome everything what can reduce its volume. >> Ask your friends to switch to Jabber and unregister from ICQ transport :) > > I did. The answer is always the same: "everybody uses GG, you go install > this." :( I don't get so much spam on GG - maybe it's worth switching from ICQ to GG? - -- Maciek xmpp:machekku@chrome.pl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1-nr1 (Windows XP) iD8DBQFDzURV7knNPWzAbeURAopVAKCGafmyrSbD2515MesV4z9rzRLNjgCfdwdc nOqyGXds6T+cHcER5jPjn1I= =4xnm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ psi-devel mailing list psi-devel@lists.affinix.com http://lists.affinix.com/listinfo.cgi/psi-devel-affinix.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Michal Kochanowicz ----- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:55:16 +0100 From: Michal Kochanowicz To: Psi Development Subject: Re: [Psi-devel] google federates X-String-ID: 39 User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Signature-Tagline-Copyright: Piotr Zientarski, 1999-2001 On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:24:06PM +0100, Maciek Niedzielski wrote: > >>> I'm damn tired of spam (I get many times more spam than legitimate > >>> messages) and I welcome everything what can reduce its volume. > >> Ask your friends to switch to Jabber and unregister from ICQ transport :) > > > > I did. The answer is always the same: "everybody uses GG, you go install > > this." :( > > I don't get so much spam on GG - maybe it's worth switching from ICQ to GG? No, for two reasons: 1. 33% of my ICQ contacts is abroad and I don't expect "them" to install GG. 2. For me GG is an emblem of destruction of idea of universal communicator. It was first in Poland and opended Pandoras box. Do you know any other country in which you have so many LOCAL communicators?? In Poland there are at least GG, O2, WPKontakt (it's jabber but this fact is not being advertised). -- --= Michal Kochanowicz =--==--==BOFH==--==--= michal@michal.waw.pl =-- --= finger me for PGP public key or visit http://michal.waw.pl/PGP =-- --==--==--==--==--==-- Vodka. Connecting people.--==--==--==--==--==-- A chodzenie po g?rach SSIE!!! _______________________________________________ psi-devel mailing list psi-devel@lists.affinix.com http://lists.affinix.com/listinfo.cgi/psi-devel-affinix.com ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Norman Rasmussen ----- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:43:18 +0200 From: Norman Rasmussen To: Psi Development Subject: Re: [Psi-devel] google federates X-String-ID: 39 bah, if msn/aim/icq/yahoo/gg/skype don't open to xmpp in the next year or two, they're just asking for trouble. On 1/17/06, Michal Kochanowicz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:24:06PM +0100, Maciek Niedzielski wrote: > > >>> I'm damn tired of spam (I get many times more spam than legitimate > > >>> messages) and I welcome everything what can reduce its volume. > > >> Ask your friends to switch to Jabber and unregister from ICQ transport :) > > > > > > I did. The answer is always the same: "everybody uses GG, you go install > > > this." :( > > > > I don't get so much spam on GG - maybe it's worth switching from ICQ to GG? > > No, for two reasons: > 1. 33% of my ICQ contacts is abroad and I don't expect "them" to install > GG. > 2. For me GG is an emblem of destruction of idea of universal > communicator. It was first in Poland and opended Pandoras box. Do you > know any other country in which you have so many LOCAL > communicators?? In Poland there are at least GG, O2, WPKontakt (it's > jabber but this fact is not being advertised). > -- - Norman Rasmussen - Email: norman@rasmussen.co.za - Home page: http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/ _______________________________________________ psi-devel mailing list psi-devel@lists.affinix.com http://lists.affinix.com/listinfo.cgi/psi-devel-affinix.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- WBR, wRAR (ALT Linux Team) Powered by the ALT Linux fortune(8): * AMorozov .oO (засунуть что-ли в сизиф пакет dev-minimal, который бы требовал udev и Obsoletes: dev. Ну, чтобы баг-репортов было побольше :-)) AMorozov, злодей :) Любители делать dist-upgrade по крону будут моими :-) интересно, такие еще есть? :)