From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:54:12 +0400 From: mok@kde.ru X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <164182251964.20030718235412@dzogchen.ru> To: Sergey G In-Reply-To: <1341169649.20030716192425@pisem.net> References: <11678463214.20030710174539@dzogchen.ru> <32832.213.200.118.164.1058029464.squirrel@mail.dzogchen.ru> <1341169649.20030716192425@pisem.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru Subject: [kde-russian] KDE book X-BeenThere: kde-russian@lists.kde.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: KDE russian translation mailing list List-Id: KDE russian translation mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 07:00:16 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: SG> =EE=CF =D7=CF=D4 =D5 =CD=C5=CE=D1 =C5=D3=D4=D8 =CF=C4=CE=CF =D0=D2=C9= =CE=C3=C9=D0=C9=C1=CC=D8=CE=CF=C5 =DA=C1=CD=C5=DE=C1=CE=C9=C5 - N141. =F4= =C1=CD SG> =C7=CF=D7=CF=D2=C9=D4=D8=D3=D1 =D0=D2=CF =CB=D2=C9=D4=C5=D2=C9=CA Lim= it. =ED=CE=C5 =CB=C1=D6=C5=D4=D8=D3=D1, =DE=D4=CF =D4=D9 =CF=DB=C9=C2=D3=D1= , SG> =C9=DA=CD=C5=CE=C9=D7 =CD=CF=CA =D0=C5=D2=C5=D7=CF=C4 =D7 =D3=CC=D5=DE= =C1=C5 =D3 =D0=C1=D2=C1=CD=C5=D4=D2=CF=CD "!". =F4=D9 =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC= =D4=C1=CD, SG> =DE=D4=CF =D0=D2=C9 =C9=D3=D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=CE=C9=C9 =D0=C1=D2= =C1=CD=C5=D4=D2=C1 ! "=D0=C1=CB=C5=D4=D9 =C2=D5=C4=D5=D4 =D0=D2=CF=C8=CF=C4= =C9=D4=D8 SG> =D0=D2=C1=D7=C9=CC=CF =D4=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF =D4=CF=C7=C4=C1, =CB=CF=C7=C4= =C1 =CF=C7=D2=C1=CE=C9=DE=C5=CE=C9=C5 =CE=C5 =D0=D2=C5=D7=D9=DB=C5=CE=CF"= . =EE=C1=D3=CB=CF=CC=D8=CB=CF SG> =D1 =DA=CE=C1=C0, =D7=D3=A3 =CE=C1=CF=C2=CF=D2=CF=D4 =F0=CF=D3=CD=CF=D4=D2=C0, =D3=D0=C1=D3=C9=C2=CF. =F7=CF=D4, =D0=CF=DE=C9=D4=C1=CA =D3=D7=C5=D6=C9=C5 =CE=CF=D7=CF=D3=D4=C9= - =DE=C5=CD =D4=D9 =D3=C5=CA=DE=C1=D3 =DA=C1=CE=C9=CD=C1=C5=DB=D8=D3=D1 = :) =F1 =C8=CF=DE=D5 =D0=CF=C4=CB=CC=C0=DE=C9=D4=D8 =CB =DC=D4=CF=CA =D2=C1=C2=CF=D4=C5 =C5=DD= =A3 =C4=D2=D5=C7=C9=C8 =CC=C0=C4=C5=CA, =DE=D4=CF=C2=D9 =DC=D4=CF=D4 =D0=C5= =D2=C5=D7=CF=C4 =C2=D9=CC =C7=CF=D4=CF=D7 =CB=C1=CB =CD=CF=D6=CE=CF =C2=D9=D3=D4=D2=C5=C5. =E7=D2=C9=DB=C1 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hi, I'll now proceed in writing a new KDE development book. Mainly because the old KDE 2 development book sucks in certain kind of ways and through the experience of participating on that book having to use DOC format and other things, I'll start basically from scratch. Any help in proof-reading and later in translation is very welcome. Example code is also nice to have :-) As I haven't taken care of any publisher who'll do hard prints I guess that'll come over time. The License for the book will be the GNU Free Documentation License, which is because my manuals in KDevelop were GPL licensed and I had to buy myself a hard copy of my own work. Which sucked as well :-) So, target is: FDL-licensed book that can be published on developer.kde.org, covering: - C++=20 - Qt 3.2 - KDE 3.2 - KDE/Qt development tools, debugging - KDE/Qt translation tools - writing DocBook manuals Specifically the book will cover KDevelop 3 as well as one big chunk of it so we can reuse the book for the KDevelop manuals and ship it with KDevelop directly (even though the debian package for the book will end up in non-free, see recent discussions about the FDL). For the book to come forward, I'll use docbook myself and I would like to re-use Lauri's docbook manuals on how to write good documentation. The question is: where to put the docbook files so we have a buildsystem around it and can have anyone participate in writing it so we can use CVS plus when certain chapters are finished translators can translate it, and how we get it published directly during the process of writing it on developer.kde.org so anyone can review the book and send in patches ? Forgot something: I'd like to have the KDE and Qt API included. I guess the Qt API docs and other docs are tricky because the copyright is with TT - but as Qt is GPL we could as well license the whole book (or the API part of the book which could be a separate book) GPL. The issue is now, how do we get docbook files out of the doxygen generated docs ? Any clues ? BTW: the copyright of the book should be with the KDE e.V. That allows it to continue further even when programmers stopped working on the book and aren't available anymore. Then the KDE e.V. can still publish it. I guess that's in everyone's interest; it should however have an authors section and a credits section like any other KDE program. Ralf Thanks, Ralf --=20 We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Nolden nolden@kde.org The K Desktop Environment The KDevelop Project http://www.kde.org http://www.kdevelop.org