From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com> To: "R. Diez" <rdiezmail-temp2@yahoo.de> Cc: Linux console tools development discussion <kbd@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [kbd] Characters '<', '>' etc. with German layout Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 13:29:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20220117122928.zrkvfz75im357t25@example.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <9e0e63f5-f571-b218-259f-bd1632aa5ff4@yahoo.de> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 08:39:00PM +0100, R. Diez wrote: > > > [...] > > How did you configure the keymap in the console? > > I didn't. I installed Ubuntu MATE with the GUI installer. O8-) > > > > Since you mentioned ubuntu, I can assume that you have the console-setup > > package installed. Is it so ? > > Yes, it is apparently installed by default on Ubuntu MATE systems. Or at least I didn't install it manually. > > > > If so, can you show me content of /etc/default/keyboard ? > > Unfortunately, that is the laptop I use while on holidays, and I am back from holiday. 8-( > > I'll post the file contents the next time around. > > I do not expect to see anything fancy there. It is not a file that I have ever touched. > > I have another IBM ThinkPad laptop with Ubuntu MATE too, which works fine > with the "Generic 105-key PC (intl.)". But I changed the keyboard to "Lenovo > (previously IBM)", "IBM Space Saver", as the outcome should be the same as > with the other laptop. > > These are the contents of that file: > > --------8<--------8<--------8<-------- > > $ cat /etc/default/keyboard > > # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE > > # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page. > > XKBMODEL="pc105" > XKBLAYOUT="gb" > XKBVARIANT="" > XKBOPTIONS="" > > BACKSPACE="guess" > > --------8<--------8<--------8<-------- > > Now that is unexpected. The keyboard is set in Ubuntu MATE to "IBM Space > Saver", but nevertheless, that file says it is still "pc105". And I have > rebooted the laptop at least once since the keyboard change. > > > > If you use console-setup then it's better to ask a package maintainers. > > What package maintainer should that be? The Ubuntu MATE project will > probably tell me that's an Ubuntu thing, Ubuntu will say that it is a Debian > thing, Debian will say it's an X-Server and/or kbd thing... > > I keep thinking that I cannot be the only guy with such keyboard issues on a ThinkPad. > > But say that I have another laptop brand. What would you tell a user that > wants to change the character some key generates? Does that depend on > whether the user runs Fedora or Debian? Does that depend on the desktop > environment (KDE/GNOME/...)? Is that different for X, for a text console > inside X, or for a text mode console? > > I just read the following in file /usr/share/doc/keyboard-configuration/README.Debian (on my Ubuntu MATE system): > > "In Debian the default keyboard layout is shared between the console > and X. It is specified in /etc/default/keyboard." The /etc/default/keyboard is a configuration file of console-setup. This project creates a kbd keymap from an xkb keymap. It looks like some characters were taken from unicode during the conversion process. > That gives me hope that there is a way to change such key characters globally for both X and the text console. > > But I am afraid of running "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" etc. > The keyboard layout seems to be working fine on this laptop, including > switching between Spanish and German layouts. If I run such a command, will > it break the keyboard on my MATE Desktop? > > Thanks for your help, > rdiez > -- Rgrds, legion
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-17 12:29 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-01-05 15:49 ` R. Diez 2022-01-06 13:27 ` Alexey Gladkov 2022-01-13 19:39 ` R. Diez 2022-01-17 12:29 ` Alexey Gladkov [this message]
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