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From: Leonid Krivoshein <klark.devel@gmail.com>
To: devel@lists.altlinux.org
Subject: Re: [devel] [sisyphus] Не переключается в графический режим
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 20:36:47 +0300
Message-ID: <c5518b2b-e00e-502d-907b-feb2ec404587@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181106110242.GA29752@altlinux.org>


06.11.2018 14:02, Alexey V. Vissarionov пишет:
> On 2018-11-05 19:45:18 +0300, Leonid Krivoshein wrote:
>
>   >>>>>> В каждом случае, как я понял, в идеале надо заменять
>   >>>>>> deprecated чтение из /dev/random на системный вызов
>   >>>>>> getrandom(2)
>   >>>> С чего бы это /dev/random стал deprecated?
>   >>> man 4 random:
>   >>> The //dev/random/ interface is considered a legacy interface.
>   >> Т.е. вы перевели термин legacy как deprecated?
>   >> А вы знаете, что getrandom(2) появился в linux-3.17,
>   >> а getrandom(3) только в glibc-2.25?
>   > Знаю. По смыслу что-то сильно не так?
>
> Да. Разница между legacy и deprecated чуть больше, чем между
> пением и сопением.

Legacy: Describes a feature or behavior that is being retained for 
compatibility with older applications, but which has limitations which 
make it inappropriate for developing portable applications. New 
applications should use alternative means of obtaining equivalent 
functionality.

Знаешь откуда? В контексте сказанного и подтекста RTFM не вижу разницы 
между LEAGCY и DEPRECATED, хотя конечно мы эти термины традиционно 
по-разному рассматриваем. Но если уж так хочется, пусть будет LEGACY!


>   > но лучше не использовать.
>
> Именно его и надо использовать. Любым удобным способом.
> Опционально - уже со своим (дополнительным) отбеливанием.

RTFM гласит иначе, без оглядки на переносимость. Наверное, это 
неправильный RTFM! :)


-- 
Best regards,
Leonid Krivoshein.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-02 16:20         ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-02 17:05             ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-02 17:20               ` Michael Shigorin
2018-11-02 17:23               ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-02 20:23                 ` Paul Wolneykien
2018-11-02 22:35                   ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-03  1:05                   ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-03  4:01                     ` Denis Medvedev
2018-11-03 11:43                       ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-04 11:17                         ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05  8:23                         ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-05 16:42                           ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 17:05                             ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 17:25                               ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 17:29                                 ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 17:32                                   ` Michael Shigorin
2018-11-05 17:48                                     ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 18:43                                       ` Vladislav Zavjalov
2018-11-05 18:54                                 ` [devel] " Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-05 20:57                                   ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 21:19                                     ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 21:42                                       ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 22:04                                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-06  3:12                                         ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 21:32                                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-05 18:58                                 ` [devel] [sisyphus] " Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 19:46                                   ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05 22:12                                     ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-06  2:59                                       ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-06  8:09                                     ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-05 20:06                                   ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-05  7:37                       ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-05 16:25                         ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-05 16:37                           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-05 16:45                             ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-06 11:02                               ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-06 17:36                                 ` Leonid Krivoshein [this message]
2018-11-05 17:06                             ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-06 21:00                       ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2018-11-06 22:04                         ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-06 22:10                           ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2018-11-06 22:15                             ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-06 22:17                               ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2018-11-06 22:29                                 ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-06 23:27                                 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-11-07  5:42                                   ` Sergey Afonin
2018-11-07 13:12                                     ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-07 18:38                                       ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-07 19:41                                         ` Paul Wolneykien
2018-11-07 19:53                                           ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-07 22:19                                           ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-08 15:58                                             ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 19:22                                               ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 22:29                                                 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-08 22:34                                                   ` Alexey Shabalin
2018-11-08 22:47                                                     ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-09  9:54                                                       ` Paul Wolneykien
2018-11-08 22:38                                                 ` Alexey Shabalin
2018-11-08 22:39                                                 ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-08 16:33                                           ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 16:35                                             ` Denis Medvedev
2018-11-08 17:15                                               ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 18:11                                                 ` Denis Medvedev
2018-11-08 22:40                                                 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-08 22:49                                                   ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 22:52                                                     ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-08 22:59                                                       ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 23:49                                                         ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-09  0:39                                                           ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 23:21                                                       ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-09  9:44                                             ` Paul Wolneykien
2018-11-09 10:10                                               ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-09 10:40                                                 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-09 12:52                                                 ` Alexey Shabalin
2018-11-09 13:14                                                   ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-09 13:42                                                     ` Антон Мидюков
2018-11-10  9:05                                                   ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2018-11-08 17:06                                         ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-08 23:07                                           ` Alexey V. Vissarionov
2018-11-09  0:30                                             ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-09  1:33                                               ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-09  1:54                                                 ` Leonid Krivoshein
2018-11-09  7:39                                                 ` Andrey Savchenko
2018-11-09  6:58                                               ` Alexey V. Vissarionov

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