From: Mikhail Gusarov <dottedmag@altlinux.org> To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:16:10 +0600 Message-ID: <87eixlmosl.fsf@vertex.dottedmag.net> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20090226111229.GA24214@wo.int.altlinux.org> (Dmitry V. Levin's message of "Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:12:29 +0300") [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2241 bytes --] Twas brillig at 14:12:29 26.02.2009 UTC+03 when ldv@altlinux.org did gyre and gimble: >> Ветками вопрошающие в backports пользоваться не хотят. Основные >> доводы: DVL> Не понимаю, они при этом хотят единый backports, или им просто DVL> нужен персональный автособиратор+автопубликатор? Единый. >> 1. Не хочу git DVL> Если они не хотят gear, то им придётся ограничиться старыми DVL> технологиями. Если они хотят двигаться вперёд, то им придётся DVL> освоить gear хотя бы в объёме DVL> /usr/share/doc/gear-1.5.*/QUICKSTART.ru.html Они не хотят двигаться вперёд. Их всё устраивает и так. >> 2. Мне нужно только 4.0, а меня заставляют бэкпортить ещё и в 4.1 и 5.0 DVL> Кто нам даст гарантию, что они не соберут в 4.0 такой пакет, DVL> который даже по версии-релизу нельзя будет обновить до более новых DVL> веток? Нам эта гарантия важнее, чем все пакеты, которые они в в DVL> состоянии собрать. Разумеется. Но попробуй объясни это в community@ или на форуме (где тоже, оказывается, обитают некоторые мейнтейнеры). Если принять это условие за аксиому, то можно просто сказать этим товарищам "спасибо, свободны". Вероятно, это улучшит атмосферу, но при этом порядочно уменьшит количество мейнтейнеров, в том числе и за счёт тех, кто посчитает своё участие в Team слишком рискованным - следующее изменение может "выбить" и их. -- [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-26 11:16 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 325+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2009-02-26 10:02 Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:13 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:14 ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:15 ` [devel] " Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:44 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:46 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:28 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 15:46 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 15:57 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 16:22 ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:42 ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 16:54 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 17:30 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 17:34 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 21:28 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 21:33 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 21:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 21:46 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 22:10 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 22:12 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 23:24 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-27 1:38 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-28 21:15 ` [devel] ACL in branches Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-28 21:20 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-28 21:47 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-03-01 2:24 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-01 11:01 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-01 12:36 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-02 19:20 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-02 19:36 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-02 20:00 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-02 20:04 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-03 17:08 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-03 17:59 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-21 11:13 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-02 21:44 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-03-03 5:00 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 6:50 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 15:16 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 16:13 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-03 16:27 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 18:21 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-03 18:47 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 19:08 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 5:41 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-04 8:28 ` REAL 2009-03-04 8:41 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-04 9:59 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 10:29 ` REAL 2009-03-04 11:02 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 6:43 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-04 6:55 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-06 16:11 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 17:04 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-05 22:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-06 16:19 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-06 17:20 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-07 9:17 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-07 10:39 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-07 18:02 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 21:12 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-08 22:32 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 0:47 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-09 8:09 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-10 19:47 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:52 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 20:08 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 20:27 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 6:37 ` Алексей Шенцев 2009-03-11 6:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-16 7:21 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 19:53 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 20:15 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 9:39 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-12 10:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 10:33 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-12 21:39 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 20:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-12 10:09 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-12 10:32 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 11:23 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 11:44 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-09 11:56 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-09 13:38 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 13:51 ` Led 2009-03-09 15:17 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 16:22 ` Led 2009-03-10 19:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:44 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 19:52 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:56 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 20:22 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 20:26 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 8:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 12:47 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 13:17 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 13:57 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:11 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 14:29 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:33 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 20:40 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 20:38 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 21:08 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 21:17 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 21:42 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 21:59 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-12 4:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 9:46 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 13:19 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 13:37 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:08 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 18:41 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-12 9:34 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-12 9:37 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-10 19:58 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-10 20:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 21:33 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-10 21:50 ` Led 2009-03-11 19:17 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 19:24 ` Led 2009-03-11 19:34 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-11 20:08 ` Led 2009-03-12 22:00 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-13 4:24 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-10 19:25 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-11 19:51 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 12:57 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 18:31 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-04-04 8:31 ` [devel] [JT] несрочно (was: ACL in branches) Michael Shigorin 2009-04-11 13:30 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 16:57 ` [devel] ACL in branches Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 20:54 ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Led 2009-02-26 21:23 ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-27 19:21 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 19:28 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-27 20:19 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-03-21 11:16 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:10 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 16:16 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 16:26 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:28 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 19:46 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-26 20:02 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 20:04 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:15 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 20:17 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:25 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 5:25 ` REAL 2009-02-27 6:08 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-27 6:17 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:58 ` REAL 2009-02-27 6:53 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 7:04 ` REAL 2009-03-21 11:21 ` [devel] о (не)нужности backports (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 5:23 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL 2009-02-26 10:14 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:16 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:45 ` Timur Batyrshin 2009-02-26 10:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:36 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 10:49 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:01 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:06 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:09 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:28 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:08 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:12 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Mikhail Gusarov [this message] 2009-02-26 11:26 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:33 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 1:09 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 4:58 ` REAL 2009-02-26 11:37 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:41 ` [devel] girar builder rebuild test Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:47 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 12:27 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:35 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 13:43 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 13:50 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 13:55 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 14:22 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 16:10 ` [devel] задания и схемы совместной работы Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-27 1:24 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 1:08 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 5:59 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:09 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:52 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-26 11:24 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:25 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:26 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 11:05 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:08 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:33 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:18 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:30 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:23 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-26 15:50 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 15:48 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 10:57 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:09 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:12 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:18 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:20 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:44 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:49 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:51 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:55 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 15:44 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 16:44 ` [devel] пример: collectd Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 17:07 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 17:11 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 17:21 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 19:41 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 4:31 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL 2009-02-27 4:28 ` Led 2009-02-27 5:15 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:57 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:39 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:47 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-03 4:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 6:20 ` [devel] [JT] " Anton Farygin 2009-03-03 8:21 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-03 8:35 ` [devel] [OT] " Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-03 8:51 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-03 16:04 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 10:49 ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:21 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-02-26 10:22 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:23 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:30 ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:31 ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:34 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 12:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2009-02-26 14:42 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 5:02 ` REAL 2009-02-26 13:29 ` Андрей Черепанов 2009-02-26 15:31 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 10:38 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:47 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:45 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:52 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2009-02-26 10:59 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:27 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:30 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2009-02-26 11:40 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:46 ` [devel] gear docs Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:50 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 12:04 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:06 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:52 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:58 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 12:05 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 12:07 ` Slava Semushin 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:10 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:15 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 12:21 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:11 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-28 19:48 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:52 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 11:58 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 12:12 ` Timur Batyrshin 2009-02-26 12:15 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 15:41 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 11:32 ` Slava Semushin 2009-02-26 12:48 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 13:26 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:56 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 14:02 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:40 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-28 18:14 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-28 18:22 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 13:04 ` Afanasov Dmitry 2009-02-26 13:11 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 16:05 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:13 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 16:29 ` [devel] [JT] бесплатные советы Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:17 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey Gladkov 2009-02-26 18:06 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 19:36 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 17:58 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 18:15 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 18:28 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 18:30 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-28 18:47 ` Led 2009-02-28 18:51 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 19:09 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 19:13 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 19:40 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-01 19:24 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 19:14 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 22:00 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-28 18:32 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 18:49 ` [devel] смысл (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 8:30 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Stanislav Ievlev 2009-02-27 10:23 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 17:44 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-27 18:09 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 18:10 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 18:22 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 18:42 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-27 18:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 20:51 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
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