From: Anton Farygin <rider@basealt.ru>
To: devel@lists.altlinux.org
Subject: Re: [devel] Q: PEP-503/566 normalized names for python?
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:45:05 +0300
Message-ID: <4c00b91e-bc5a-dc40-0e8f-de1060d3642e@basealt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee4b1aeb-d55b-c8f2-0e96-2bc4da5c782c@basealt.ru>
On 23.09.2020 13:37, Anton Farygin wrote:
> On 23.09.2020 13:13, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 01:07:58PM +0300, Igor Vlasenko wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:44:11AM +0300, Sergey Bolshakov wrote:
>>>> Послушайте, зачем это всё ?
>>>> Какая вообще разница, какое имя имеет файл, обычно начинающийся
>>>> на pythno3-module, если всё, что от него нужно -- это список
>>>> requires/provides вида python3(...) ?
>>>> Какому не спятившему окончательно пользователю интересно
>>>> рассматривать глазами несколько тысяч таких файлов ? Зачем ?
>>> Я как раз не выступаю за обязательное переименование пакетов.
>>> Так что в таком контексте я поддерживаю текст выше.
>>> Для меня и Виталия, как понимаю, достаточно автогенерируемых
>>> python3dist(normalized-name)
>> 4 тысячи лишних provides - это цена, которую заплатит каждый
>> пользователь
>> apt, причём не один раз, а при каждом использовании apt. Для этого
>> нужны
>> веские основания.
>
> Добавлю, что почему-то никого не смущает наличие у пакетов 13090
> зависимостей на /bin/sh
>
> 173811 зависимостей на rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma)
> 41405 зависимостей на rpmlib(SetVersions)
> 41861 зависимостей на rtld(GNU_HASH)
Ещё немного занимательной статистики:
первое поле - имя пакета, второе - provides, третье - length от версии
этого provides в байтах. Первые 50 по уменьшению:
"ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so",349758
"ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",349706
"ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",348083
"i586-ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so",250264
"ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so",250264
"ghc8.6.4","libHSghc-8.6.4-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",250230
"ardour","/usr/lib/ardour6/libardour.so.3",180075
"i586-ardour","/usr/lib/ardour6/libardour.so.3",180075
"ardour","/usr/lib/ardour6/libardour.so.3",179997
"ardour","/usr/lib64/ardour6/libardour.so.3()(64bit)",179924
"ardour","/usr/lib64/ardour6/libardour.so.3()(64bit)",179890
"ardour","/usr/lib64/ardour6/libardour.so.3()(64bit)",179878
"ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-K18FO15EXTwC3mU4i8PUsJ-ghc8.6.4.so",171558
"ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-K18FO15EXTwC3mU4i8PUsJ-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",171555
"ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-K18FO15EXTwC3mU4i8PUsJ-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",171479
"ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",164071
"ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so",163531
"ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",161626
"libgdal","libgdal.so.26()(64bit)",148813
"libgdal","libgdal.so.26()(64bit)",148717
"libgdal","libgdal.so.26()(64bit)",148701
"libgdal","libgdal.so.26",148335
"libgdal","libgdal.so.26",148320
"i586-libgdal","libgdal.so.26",148320
"ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-HK8B58fGjJX9rq7pWBVrYD-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",147020
"i586-ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-HK8B58fGjJX9rq7pWBVrYD-ghc8.6.4.so",147003
"ghc8.6.4-texmath","libHStexmath-0.12.0.2-HK8B58fGjJX9rq7pWBVrYD-ghc8.6.4.so",147003
"ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",114796
"ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so",114477
"i586-ghc8.6.4","libHSCabal-2.4.0.1-ghc8.6.4.so",114477
"libgo11","libgo.so.11",108574
"i586-libgo11","libgo.so.11",108574
"libgo11","libgo.so.11()(64bit)",108160
"ghc8.6.4","libHSbase-4.12.0.0-ghc8.6.4.so",100490
"ghc8.6.4","libHSbase-4.12.0.0-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",100198
"ghc8.6.4","libHSbase-4.12.0.0-ghc8.6.4.so()(64bit)",99196
"i586-libgo14","libgo.so.14",80425
"libgo14","libgo.so.14",80425
"libgo14","libgo.so.14()(64bit)",79682
"libgo13","libgo.so.13",78213
"i586-libgo13","libgo.so.13",78213
"libgo13","libgo.so.13()(64bit)",77471
"i586-libvxl2","libvnl.so.2",77403
"libvxl2","libvnl.so.2",77403
"libvxl2","libvnl.so.2",77401
"libvxl2","libvnl.so.2()(64bit)",77394
"libvxl2","libvnl.so.2()(64bit)",77371
"libvxl2","libvnl.so.2()(64bit)",77371
"i586-ghc8.6.4","libHSbase-4.12.0.0-ghc8.6.4.so",75160
"ghc8.6.4","libHSbase-4.12.0.0-ghc8.6.4.so",75160
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2020-09-22 17:06 Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-22 17:27 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-22 17:48 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-22 18:46 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-22 18:52 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-22 19:28 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-23 5:52 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 6:23 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-28 10:00 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-10-31 13:48 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-22 17:38 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-23 6:30 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 6:39 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-23 7:38 ` Andrey Cherepanov
2020-09-23 15:40 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-24 7:58 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-24 13:57 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-24 14:44 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-24 16:15 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-25 5:51 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-25 6:18 ` Grigory Ustinov
2020-09-25 7:04 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-25 7:19 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-26 0:23 ` Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-28 9:02 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-28 12:28 ` Anton V. Boyarshinov
2020-09-28 13:00 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-28 13:15 ` Andrey Savchenko
2020-09-28 14:54 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-28 14:58 ` [devel] [JT] " Oleg Solovyov
2020-09-28 18:09 ` [devel] " Vladimir D. Seleznev
2020-09-29 7:26 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-29 8:01 ` Ivan A. Melnikov
2020-09-29 8:08 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-24 19:01 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-24 20:41 ` Vladislav Zavjalov
2020-09-24 9:09 ` [devel] предложение всем, кто предлагает изменения Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-24 11:08 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-24 11:43 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-24 11:53 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-24 12:51 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-24 12:50 ` Sergey V Turchin
2020-09-23 6:48 ` [devel] Q: PEP-503/566 normalized names for python? Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-23 6:54 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-23 7:06 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 8:44 ` Sergey Bolshakov
2020-09-23 9:01 ` Валерий Иноземцев
2020-09-23 10:07 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-23 10:13 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 10:24 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 10:26 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 10:27 ` Andrey Savchenko
2020-09-23 11:19 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 11:21 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 11:26 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 11:32 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 11:34 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 11:40 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 11:50 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 10:33 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-24 19:36 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-23 10:37 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 10:45 ` Anton Farygin [this message]
2020-09-24 19:43 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-24 20:51 ` Vladislav Zavjalov
2020-09-25 3:49 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 9:21 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2020-09-23 10:28 ` Anton Farygin
2020-09-23 10:44 ` Igor Vlasenko
2020-09-24 19:03 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2020-09-24 19:35 ` Igor Vlasenko
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