From: Michael Shigorin <mike@osdn.org.ua> To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: [devel] цели проектов Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:05:05 +0300 Message-ID: <20100921160505.GQ2005@osdn.org.ua> (raw) In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinuYE9k7wj13E67jXOsO_59MBE9R-G9DsCTnVgj@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 06:49:29PM +0300, Victor Forsiuk wrote: > > Bleeding edge - это федора. > это давно уже не так. Не совсем: "The Fedora 14 and Ubuntu 10.10 release cycle is particularly pronounced in this regard, with Ubuntu's focus largely on refining improvements from 10.04 and Fedora introducing major changes to the infrastructure." "Fedora's feature list largely consists of infrastructure improvements and developer-oriented updates." -- http://lwn.net/Articles/403543/ И кстати, "The Fedora project is built in a different way; being run by a chain of partly-elected committees is great for openness and transparency and defending community values, but it does lose the benefits of focus and swiftness that come from having one person in charge and defining the project's scope and vision." -- http://www.happyassassin.net/2010/09/02/on-updates-and-user-experiences-and-so-forth/ > > У Сизифа такой задачи, вроде как, нет. > А какая задача есть? Может не стоит прятаться за эвфемизмами? > Есть проблема, ее нужно решать. Постановку целей вряд ли получится осмысленно решать до зимы (выпуск 6.0/{iso,branch} и выдохнуть после этого). Насколько понимаю, в ближайшие месяцы вариантов развития событий по части ООО (что прямо влияет на возможность и объём гарантий, которые можно делать по части разработки и поддержки) -- это тоже меня наводит на мысль о том, что _сейчас_ пытаться сгоряча что-то сказать о целях проекта не следует, но подумать об этом и за следующий год, а в идеале за зиму -- сформулировать наконец хотя бы первое приближение. -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru> ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-21 16:05 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2010-09-10 4:49 [devel] sisyphus cleanup ? Anton Farygin 2010-09-10 4:54 ` Slava Semushin 2010-09-10 7:12 ` Anton Farygin 2010-09-10 8:09 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2010-09-10 8:14 ` Andrew Clark 2010-09-10 8:19 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-10 8:20 ` Anton Farygin 2010-09-10 12:12 ` [devel] sisyphus cleanup Michael Shigorin 2010-09-11 5:53 ` REAL 2010-09-13 12:37 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 9:05 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-09-14 13:05 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 13:06 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-14 13:43 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 13:47 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-14 13:50 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 13:57 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-14 14:06 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 14:12 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-14 14:14 ` Victor Forsiuk 2010-09-14 14:20 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-15 3:58 ` REAL 2010-09-15 6:21 ` Timur Batyrshin 2010-09-15 12:50 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-10-07 14:39 ` Timur Batyrshin 2010-09-14 16:45 ` Alexey Voinov 2010-09-14 11:11 ` Sergey Kurakin 2010-09-14 13:42 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-09-19 16:21 ` [devel] sisyphus cleanup ? Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-19 21:00 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-19 21:11 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-20 3:37 ` Slava Semushin 2010-09-20 11:12 ` [devel] altlinux policy Michael Shigorin 2010-09-20 11:36 ` [devel] sisyphus cleanup ? Aleksey Novodvorsky 2010-09-20 12:46 ` Anton Farygin 2010-09-20 17:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 9:13 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 9:21 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 9:51 ` Anton Farygin 2010-09-21 8:58 ` REAL 2010-09-21 9:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 10:16 ` Anton Farygin 2010-09-21 10:17 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 13:45 ` Alexey Shabalin 2010-09-21 13:49 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-09-21 10:01 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 10:16 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 10:30 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 10:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 11:15 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-21 12:16 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 12:17 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-21 12:20 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 13:41 ` [devel] ответы на вопросы Michael Shigorin 2010-09-21 11:36 ` [devel] sisyphus cleanup ? Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 12:15 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 12:38 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 12:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 13:00 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-21 13:05 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-21 13:19 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2010-09-22 4:15 ` Afanasov Dmitry 2010-09-22 7:06 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2010-09-21 15:11 ` sbolshakov 2010-09-21 14:08 ` Андрей Черепанов 2010-09-21 14:11 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-09-21 14:08 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2010-09-21 15:29 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2010-09-22 4:55 ` REAL 2010-09-22 9:34 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-09-22 8:45 ` REAL 2010-09-22 9:46 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2010-09-22 10:22 ` Michael Shigorin 2010-09-22 11:31 ` Sergey Y. Afonin 2010-09-21 14:08 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov 2010-09-21 16:05 ` Michael Shigorin [this message] 2010-09-21 14:11 ` Alexey Gladkov 2010-09-21 15:34 ` Alexey Gladkov 2010-09-22 4:59 ` REAL 2010-09-22 8:42 ` [devel] make-3.82 Dmitry V. Levin 2010-10-19 14:54 ` [devel] sisyphus cleanup ? Dmitry V. Levin 2010-10-21 2:20 ` REAL 2010-09-21 12:24 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2010-09-22 10:50 ` Konstantin Pavlov 2010-09-21 17:56 ` Денис Смирнов 2010-09-21 18:05 ` Igor Zubkov 2010-09-22 6:40 ` Андрей Черепанов 2010-09-21 10:31 ` Dmitry V. Levin
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