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From: Alexey Tourbin <at@altlinux.ru>
To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] ACL in branches
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:00:47 +0300
Message-ID: <20090302200047.GJ16811@altlinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903022236.55176@ruslandh>

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On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:36:38PM +0300, Хихин Руслан wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 05:24:31AM +0300, Alexey Rusakov wrote:
> > > Она мне нравится, но мне не совсем спокойно за состояние
> > > бранчей. Просто не совсем понятно, чем они на данный момент
> > > отличаются от Сизифа, чтоб их стабильность была выше, чем
> > > Сизифа.
> >
> > Неспокойно за состояние бранчей, поскольку не понятно, почему
> > тогда бранчи должны быть стабильнее Сизифа.  Так-так-так.  А
> > кто сказал, что бранчи должны быть стабильнее Сизифа?  Алексей
> > Новодворский или кто?
> Зачем нужен бренч ? 
> Если он нужен, что-бы из него собирать дистрибутив (5.0), то он 
> должен быть стабильнее Сизифа.

Нет причины, почему бранч должен быть стабильнее Сизифа.

Мы умеем проверять всякие довольно каверзные вещи.  Например, мы умеем
проверять устанавливаемость пакетов (в минимальный чрут).  Для всех
брачей без исключения можно реализовать проверку, встают новые пакеты
в минимальный чрут или нет.  Я сегодня такую проверку реализовал.  Она
ещё на заработала как следует, но завтра заработает.

Единственная причина, почему бранч может быть стабильнее сизифа, --
это только потому, что бранч тестируют вручную.  Причем, реально.
Установили паеты.  Запустили, пощелкали, посмотрели.  Подумали.
Вроде работает.  Ну обезьяны там у них сидят.  В хорошем смысле слова.

> Если он нужен как официальный 
> источник обновления, то то-же. Если он нужен как вариант 
> бекпорта, только непротиворечивый по зависимостям и т.п. - то 
> ему не требутся ставильность выше Сизифа. 
> В результате на ровном месте получаем два вида бренчей - более 
> стабильные чем Сизиф (дистрибутиво-строительные) и равные Сизифу 
> (бекпорты). Интересно ... :)

Нет причины, почему бранч должен быть стабильнее Сизифа.

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2009-02-26 10:02 [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:13 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 10:14   ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 10:15   ` [devel] " Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:29     ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 10:44       ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:46         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:56       ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:28   ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 10:35     ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:39       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 15:46         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 15:57           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 16:22             ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:42               ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov
2009-02-26 16:54                 ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 17:30                   ` Sergey Bolshakov
2009-02-26 17:34                     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 20:57                   ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-26 21:28                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 21:33                       ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-26 21:45                         ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 21:46                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 22:10                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 22:12                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 23:24                           ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-27  1:38                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-28 21:15                   ` [devel] ACL in branches Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-28 21:20                     ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-28 21:47                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-03-01  2:24                         ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-01 11:01                           ` Хихин Руслан
2009-03-01 12:36                             ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-02 19:20                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-02 19:36                             ` Хихин Руслан
2009-03-02 20:00                               ` Alexey Tourbin [this message]
2009-03-02 20:04                                 ` Хихин Руслан
2009-03-03 17:08                                 ` Michael Shigorin
2009-03-03 17:59                                   ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-21 11:13                                     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-03-02 21:44                             ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-03-03  5:00                               ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-03  6:50                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-03 15:16                                   ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-03 16:13                                     ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-03 16:27                                       ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-03 18:21                                         ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-03 18:47                                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-03 19:08                                             ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-04  5:41                                               ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-03-04  8:28                                               ` REAL
2009-03-04  8:41                                                 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-03-04  9:59                                                 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-04 10:29                                                   ` REAL
2009-03-04 11:02                                                     ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-04  6:43                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-04  6:55                                               ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-03-06 16:11                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-03 17:04                                     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-03-05 22:45                                       ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-06 16:19                                     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-06 17:20                                       ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-07  9:17                                         ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-07 10:39                                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-07 18:02                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-07 21:12                                               ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-08 22:32                                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-09  0:47                                                   ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-09  8:09                                                     ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-10 19:47                                                       ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 19:52                                                         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-10 20:08                                                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 20:27                                                             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-11  6:37                                                               ` Алексей Шенцев
2009-03-11  6:49                                                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-16  7:21                                                             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-11 19:53                                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-11 20:15                                                           ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-12  9:39                                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-12 10:30                                                               ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-12 10:33                                                                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-12 21:39                                                                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-11 20:45                                                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-12 10:09                                                             ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-12 10:32                                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-09 11:23                                                     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-09 11:44                                                       ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-09 11:56                                                         ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-03-09 13:38                                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-09 13:51                                                           ` Led
2009-03-09 15:17                                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-09 16:22                                                               ` Led
2009-03-10 19:42                                                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 19:44                                                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-10 19:52                                                         ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 19:56                                                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-10 20:22                                                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 20:26                                                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-03-11  8:57                                                               ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-11 12:47                                                                 ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 13:17                                                                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-11 13:57                                                                     ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 14:11                                                                       ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-11 14:29                                                                         ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 14:33                                                                           ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-11 20:40                                                                             ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-11 20:38                                                                           ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-11 21:08                                                                             ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 21:17                                                                               ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-11 21:42                                                                                 ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-11 21:59                                                                                 ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-12  4:30                                                                                   ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-12  9:46                                                                                     ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 13:19                                                                   ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-11 13:37                                                                     ` Yuri N. Sedunov
2009-03-11 14:08                                                                       ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-11 18:41                                                                 ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-12  9:34                                                                   ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-12  9:37                                                               ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-10 19:58                                                           ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-10 20:42                                                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-10 21:33                                                             ` Grigory Batalov
2009-03-10 21:50                                                             ` Led
2009-03-11 19:17                                                               ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-11 19:24                                                                 ` Led
2009-03-11 19:34                                                                   ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov
2009-03-11 20:08                                                                     ` Led
2009-03-12 22:00                                                                       ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-13  4:24                                                                   ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-10 19:25                                                   ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-11 19:51                                                     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-07 12:57                                         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-07 18:31                                           ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-04-04  8:31                                           ` [devel] [JT] несрочно (was: ACL in branches) Michael Shigorin
2009-04-11 13:30                                             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-03-03 16:57                     ` [devel] ACL in branches Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 20:54               ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Led
2009-02-26 21:23                 ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov
2009-02-27 19:21                   ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-27 19:28                     ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-27 20:19                     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-03-21 11:16                       ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:10           ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Sergey Bolshakov
2009-02-26 16:16             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 16:26               ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:28                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 19:46               ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-26 20:02                 ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 20:04                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 20:15                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 20:17                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 20:25                   ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27  5:25                   ` REAL
2009-02-27  6:08                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-27  6:17                       ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27  6:58                         ` REAL
2009-02-27  6:53                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-27  7:04                             ` REAL
2009-03-21 11:21                   ` [devel] о (не)нужности backports (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin
2009-02-27  5:23                 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL
2009-02-26 10:14 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:16   ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 10:29   ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-02-26 10:45     ` Timur Batyrshin
2009-02-26 10:30   ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 10:36   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 10:49     ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 10:56       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:01         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:06           ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 11:09             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:28               ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:08           ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 11:12           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:16             ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:26               ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:33                 ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-27  1:09                   ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-27  4:58                   ` REAL
2009-02-26 11:37                 ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 11:41                   ` [devel] girar builder rebuild test Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:47                   ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 12:27                     ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 12:35                       ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 13:43                         ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 13:50                           ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 13:55                             ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 14:22                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 16:10                             ` [devel] задания и схемы совместной работы Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-27  1:24                               ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-27  1:08                 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Денис Смирнов
2009-02-27  5:59                   ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27  6:09                   ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27  6:52                     ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-02-26 11:24             ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 11:25               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:26             ` Sergey Bolshakov
2009-02-26 11:05         ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 11:08           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:16           ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:33             ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 11:34             ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-26 11:16         ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:18           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:30             ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 13:23               ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-02-26 15:50             ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 15:48         ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 10:57       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:09         ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 11:12           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:18         ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:20           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:34             ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:44               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:49                 ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:51                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:55                     ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:57                     ` Alexey Rusakov
2009-02-26 15:44                   ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 16:44                     ` [devel] пример: collectd Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:49                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 17:07                         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 17:11                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 17:21                               ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 19:41                           ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-27  4:31         ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL
2009-02-27  4:28           ` Led
2009-02-27  5:15             ` REAL
2009-02-26 10:57       ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:39   ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 10:47     ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-02-26 11:34       ` Grigory Batalov
2009-03-03  4:42         ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-03  6:20           ` [devel] [JT] " Anton Farygin
2009-03-03  8:21             ` Grigory Batalov
2009-03-03  8:35               ` [devel] [OT] " Alexey Rusakov
2009-03-03  8:51                 ` Anton Farygin
2009-03-03 16:04                 ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 10:49     ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff
2009-02-26 10:49     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:21 ` Grigory Batalov
2009-02-26 10:22   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:23     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:29     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 10:30       ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 10:31     ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff
2009-02-26 10:34       ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-26 12:52       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2009-02-26 14:42         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-27  5:02         ` REAL
2009-02-26 13:29     ` Андрей Черепанов
2009-02-26 15:31     ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 10:38   ` REAL
2009-02-26 10:35     ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:47       ` REAL
2009-02-26 10:45         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 10:35     ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 10:52       ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 10:56         ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-02-26 10:59         ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 11:27           ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:30             ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2009-02-26 11:40               ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:46                 ` [devel] gear docs Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:50                   ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 11:56                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 12:04                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 12:06                         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 12:08                         ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:52                   ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 11:58                     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 12:05                       ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 12:07                         ` Slava Semushin
2009-02-26 12:08                         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 12:10                           ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 12:15                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-26 12:21                               ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-26 12:11                           ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-28 19:48                             ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-02-26 12:08                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2009-02-26 11:52                 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey I. Froloff
2009-02-26 11:58                   ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 12:12                     ` Timur Batyrshin
2009-02-26 12:15                       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-26 15:41                 ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-26 11:32             ` Slava Semushin
2009-02-26 12:48             ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 13:26               ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 13:56                 ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 14:02                   ` Eugene Ostapets
2009-02-26 13:40         ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-02-28 18:14   ` Aleksey Avdeev
2009-02-28 18:22     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 13:04 ` Afanasov Dmitry
2009-02-26 13:11   ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 16:05     ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:13       ` Alexey I. Froloff
2009-02-26 16:29         ` [devel] [JT] бесплатные советы Michael Shigorin
2009-02-26 16:17       ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey Gladkov
2009-02-26 18:06       ` Anton Farygin
2009-02-26 19:36 ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-28 17:58   ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-28 18:15     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-28 18:28       ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-28 18:30         ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-28 18:47         ` Led
2009-02-28 18:51           ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-28 19:09       ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-28 19:13         ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-28 19:40           ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-03-01 19:24             ` Michael Shigorin
2009-02-28 19:14         ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2009-02-28 22:00       ` Денис Смирнов
2009-02-28 18:32     ` Alexey Tourbin
2009-02-28 18:49       ` [devel] смысл (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin
2009-02-27  8:30 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Stanislav Ievlev
2009-02-27 10:23   ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27 17:44   ` Igor Vlasenko
2009-02-27 18:09     ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27 18:10       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-27 18:22         ` Evgeny Sinelnikov
2009-02-27 18:42     ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2009-02-27 18:49       ` Mikhail Gusarov
2009-02-27 20:51         ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool

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