From: Alexey Tourbin <at@altlinux.ru> To: ALT Linux Team development discussions <devel@lists.altlinux.org> Subject: Re: [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:47:23 +0300 Message-ID: <20090226114723.GA31985@altlinux.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20090226113755.GA15815@dad.imath.kiev.ua> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1635 bytes --] On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 01:37:56PM +0200, Igor Vlasenko wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:26:48PM +0300, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > Следующим измненением, которое было анонсированное давно, будет тестовая > > пересборка (части) пакетов репозитория при обработке поступающих в > > репозиторий пакетов. Да, это кому-то покажется неудобным, когда он не > > сможет просто так отправить в репозиторий пакет, который ломает сборку > > других пакетов. Но мы хотим двигаться вперёд, верно? > > Ой! > Это вещь правильная, но прежде чем делать > такое, нужно ее проговорить. Диавол в деталях :( Да. Базовая идея -- не допускать никакого разлома. То есть не брать e.g. gcc4.4, пока всё не починится. > Как, например, при таком подходе бутстрапы делать? > С тем же gcc, можно ли будет провести сборку > существенно нового gcc, не используя особых привилегий, > с правами простого майнтайнера? Как вариант, maintainer'у gcc придётся чинить все пакеты, которые ломаются при сборке с новым gcc; но ему скорее всего не хватит прав по ACL, чтобы вклиниться во все другие пакеты. Ещё есть такая особенность, что апстримы как правило довольно быстро чинять софт на совместимость со свежим gcc. Это значит, что самому чинить иногда ничего не надо, а надо прежде всего попробовать посмотреть новую версию. Это ставит мейнейнера gcc в ещё более непростое положение: чинить ли ему пакеты по месту поломки или попробовать обновить на новую версию. > Чтобы не получилось так, что был анонс, > по анонсу были вопросы о граблях, эти вопросы остались без ответа, > в урочное время все дружно наступили на грабли. [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-26 11:47 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 325+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2009-02-26 10:02 Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:13 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:14 ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:15 ` [devel] " Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:44 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:46 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:28 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:39 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 15:46 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 15:57 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 16:22 ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:42 ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 16:54 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 17:30 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 17:34 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 21:28 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 21:33 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 21:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 21:46 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 22:10 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 22:12 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 23:24 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-27 1:38 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-28 21:15 ` [devel] ACL in branches Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-28 21:20 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-28 21:47 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-03-01 2:24 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-01 11:01 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-01 12:36 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-02 19:20 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-02 19:36 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-02 20:00 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-02 20:04 ` Хихин Руслан 2009-03-03 17:08 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-03 17:59 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-21 11:13 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-02 21:44 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-03-03 5:00 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 6:50 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 15:16 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 16:13 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-03 16:27 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 18:21 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-03 18:47 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 19:08 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 5:41 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-04 8:28 ` REAL 2009-03-04 8:41 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-04 9:59 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 10:29 ` REAL 2009-03-04 11:02 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-04 6:43 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-04 6:55 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-06 16:11 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 17:04 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-03-05 22:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-06 16:19 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-06 17:20 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-07 9:17 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-07 10:39 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-07 18:02 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 21:12 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-08 22:32 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 0:47 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-09 8:09 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-10 19:47 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:52 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 20:08 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 20:27 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 6:37 ` Алексей Шенцев 2009-03-11 6:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-16 7:21 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 19:53 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 20:15 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 9:39 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-12 10:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 10:33 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-12 21:39 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 20:45 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-12 10:09 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-12 10:32 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 11:23 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 11:44 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-09 11:56 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-03-09 13:38 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 13:51 ` Led 2009-03-09 15:17 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-09 16:22 ` Led 2009-03-10 19:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:44 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 19:52 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 19:56 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-10 20:22 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 20:26 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-03-11 8:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 12:47 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 13:17 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 13:57 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:11 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 14:29 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:33 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 20:40 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 20:38 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 21:08 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 21:17 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-11 21:42 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 21:59 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-12 4:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-12 9:46 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 13:19 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 13:37 ` Yuri N. Sedunov 2009-03-11 14:08 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-11 18:41 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-12 9:34 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-12 9:37 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-10 19:58 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-10 20:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-10 21:33 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-10 21:50 ` Led 2009-03-11 19:17 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-11 19:24 ` Led 2009-03-11 19:34 ` Dmitriy M. Maslennikov 2009-03-11 20:08 ` Led 2009-03-12 22:00 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-13 4:24 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-10 19:25 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-11 19:51 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 12:57 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-07 18:31 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-04-04 8:31 ` [devel] [JT] несрочно (was: ACL in branches) Michael Shigorin 2009-04-11 13:30 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-03-03 16:57 ` [devel] ACL in branches Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 20:54 ` [devel] backports und branches (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Led 2009-02-26 21:23 ` [devel] backports und branches Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-27 19:21 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 19:28 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-27 20:19 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-03-21 11:16 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:10 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 16:16 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 16:26 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:28 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 19:46 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-26 20:02 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 20:04 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:15 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 20:17 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 20:25 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 5:25 ` REAL 2009-02-27 6:08 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-27 6:17 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:58 ` REAL 2009-02-27 6:53 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 7:04 ` REAL 2009-03-21 11:21 ` [devel] о (не)нужности backports (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 5:23 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL 2009-02-26 10:14 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:16 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:45 ` Timur Batyrshin 2009-02-26 10:30 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:36 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 10:49 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:01 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:06 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:09 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:28 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:08 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:12 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:26 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:33 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 1:09 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 4:58 ` REAL 2009-02-26 11:37 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:41 ` [devel] girar builder rebuild test Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:47 ` Alexey Tourbin [this message] 2009-02-26 12:27 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:35 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 13:43 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 13:50 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 13:55 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 14:22 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 16:10 ` [devel] задания и схемы совместной работы Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-27 1:24 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 1:08 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Денис Смирнов 2009-02-27 5:59 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:09 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 6:52 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-26 11:24 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:25 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:26 ` Sergey Bolshakov 2009-02-26 11:05 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:08 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:33 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 11:16 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:18 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:30 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:23 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-26 15:50 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 15:48 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 10:57 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:09 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 11:12 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:18 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:20 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:44 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:49 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:51 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:55 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:57 ` Alexey Rusakov 2009-02-26 15:44 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 16:44 ` [devel] пример: collectd Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 17:07 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 17:11 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 17:21 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 19:41 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 4:31 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? REAL 2009-02-27 4:28 ` Led 2009-02-27 5:15 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:57 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:39 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 10:47 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-26 11:34 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-03 4:42 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-03 6:20 ` [devel] [JT] " Anton Farygin 2009-03-03 8:21 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-03-03 8:35 ` [devel] [OT] " Alexey Rusakov 2009-03-03 8:51 ` Anton Farygin 2009-03-03 16:04 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 10:49 ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:21 ` Grigory Batalov 2009-02-26 10:22 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:23 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:29 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:30 ` [devel] Fwd: " Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 10:31 ` [devel] " Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 10:34 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-26 12:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov 2009-02-26 14:42 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 5:02 ` REAL 2009-02-26 13:29 ` Андрей Черепанов 2009-02-26 15:31 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 10:38 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:47 ` REAL 2009-02-26 10:45 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 10:35 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 10:52 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 10:56 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2009-02-26 10:59 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 11:27 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:30 ` Andrey Rahmatullin 2009-02-26 11:40 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:46 ` [devel] gear docs Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:50 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 11:56 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 12:04 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:06 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:52 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 11:58 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 12:05 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 12:07 ` Slava Semushin 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 12:10 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:15 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-26 12:21 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-26 12:11 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-28 19:48 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-26 12:08 ` Dmitry V. Levin 2009-02-26 11:52 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 11:58 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 12:12 ` Timur Batyrshin 2009-02-26 12:15 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-26 15:41 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-26 11:32 ` Slava Semushin 2009-02-26 12:48 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 13:26 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:56 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 14:02 ` Eugene Ostapets 2009-02-26 13:40 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-28 18:14 ` Aleksey Avdeev 2009-02-28 18:22 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 13:04 ` Afanasov Dmitry 2009-02-26 13:11 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 16:05 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:13 ` Alexey I. Froloff 2009-02-26 16:29 ` [devel] [JT] бесплатные советы Michael Shigorin 2009-02-26 16:17 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Alexey Gladkov 2009-02-26 18:06 ` Anton Farygin 2009-02-26 19:36 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 17:58 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 18:15 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 18:28 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 18:30 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-28 18:47 ` Led 2009-02-28 18:51 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 19:09 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 19:13 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 19:40 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-03-01 19:24 ` Michael Shigorin 2009-02-28 19:14 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky 2009-02-28 22:00 ` Денис Смирнов 2009-02-28 18:32 ` Alexey Tourbin 2009-02-28 18:49 ` [devel] смысл (was: ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort?) Michael Shigorin 2009-02-27 8:30 ` [devel] ALT: Liberte, egalite, fraternite ou la Mort? Stanislav Ievlev 2009-02-27 10:23 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 17:44 ` Igor Vlasenko 2009-02-27 18:09 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 18:10 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 18:22 ` Evgeny Sinelnikov 2009-02-27 18:42 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool 2009-02-27 18:49 ` Mikhail Gusarov 2009-02-27 20:51 ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
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