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From: Alexey Tourbin <at@altlinux.ru>
To: ALT Devel discussion list <devel@lists.altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [devel] GPLv3 порождает проблемы , которые нам необходимо решать
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:34:32 +0400
Message-ID: <20070801133432.GL7938@solemn.turbinal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070801131051.GA8633@mail.gu.net>

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On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 04:10:51PM +0300, Victor Forsyuk wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:57:07AM +0400, Epiphanov Sergei <serpiph@nikiet.ru> wrote:
> > В сообщении от Tuesday 31 July 2007 12:19:18 Alexey Rusakov написал(а):
> > > > Тем более что до сих пор нет policy по названиям лицензий.
> > >
> > > Ещё раз обращаю внимание на появившийся rpm-build-licenses и жду критики и
> > > дополнений по списку лицензий в нём.
> > 
> > Вопрос: есть модуль для Perl: Tie::CPHash (perl-Tie-CPHash). В файле README к 
> > нему написано, что можно применять свободно и если интересуют подробности, 
> > то обращайтесь к GPL или Artistic License. На данный момент у меня так и 
> > вписано. Если будут жёсткие рамки по лицензиям, то что тогда вписывать?
> 
> Perl.
> 
> Кстати: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Tie-CPHash/
> 
> или посмотрите в секцию LICENSE:
> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Tie-CPHash/lib/Tie/CPHash.pm
> 
> "Tie::CPHash is distributed under the same terms as Perl itself."
> 
> В таких случаях для единообразия стоит вместо "GPL or Artistic",
> "Artistic and GPL" (sic!) писать просто "Perl".
> 
> Кстати, прошу всех обратить внимание на то, что _очень много_ пакетов
> перловых модулей в сизифе несут в себе неточную информацию.

Точной информации на самом деле нет, поэтому я и предлагаю продавать за
то, за что покупаем, т.е. писать "GPL or Artistic".

На самом деле раньше думали, что точная информация это "GPLv1 or
Artistic", и в PLD спеках так и стали писать.

$ cd PLD-SPECS
$ grep -h ^License: perl-*.spec |sort |uniq -c |sort -n |tail
      9 License:        GPL v1 or Artistic
     16 License:        BSD-like
     24 License:        GPL v2
     34 License:        LGPL
     43 License:        GPL
     61 License:        GPL or Artistic
     63 License:        GPL v2+
     85 License:        Artistic
    123 License:        unknown
   1208 License:        GPL v1+ or Artistic
$

Потом в апстриме как-то неглядя и без всякого обсуждения заменили файл
с лицензией GPLv1 на GPLv2.  См. git-whatchanged pod/perlgpl.pod

Вот коммит, в котором написано, "reformatting", а на самом деле
произошло обновление лицензии!

commit da0a6e040fde463c157474a46d20174e74aeab48
Author: jhi <jhi@kosh>
Date:   Mon May 5 05:52:47 2003 +0000

    Change 19417: perlartistic and perlgpl reformatting from Sean Burke.
    
    	perlartistic and perlgpl reformatting from Sean Burke.

diff --git a/pod/perlartistic.pod b/pod/perlartistic.pod
index 5172916..273b8dd 100644
--- a/pod/perlartistic.pod
+++ b/pod/perlartistic.pod
@@ -1,10 +1,20 @@
-=pod
 
-=head1 The "Artistic License"
+=head1 NAME
+
+perlartistic -- the Perl Artistic License
+

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diff --git a/pod/perlgpl.pod b/pod/perlgpl.pod
index 1b76b8b..f1e2712 100644
--- a/pod/perlgpl.pod
+++ b/pod/perlgpl.pod
@@ -1,260 +1,380 @@
-=pod
+
+=head1 NAME
+
+perlgpl -- the GNU Public General Public License, version 2
+
+=head1 SYNOPSIS
+
+ You can refer to this document in Pod via "L<perlgpl>"
+ Or you can see this document by entering "perldoc perlgpl"
+
+=cut
+
+# Because the following document's language disallows "changing"
+# it, we haven't gone thru and prettied it up with =item's or
+# anything.  It's good enough the way it is.
+
+=head1 DESCRIPTION
+
+[This is the B<The "GNU General Public License, version 2">.  It's here
+so that modules/programs/etc that want to declare this as their
+distribution license, can link to it.]
 
 =head1 GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
 
-This document includes the GNU General Public License, one of the two
-alternatives licenses under which Perl can be redistributed and/or
-modified.  See also the Perl Artistic License in L<perlartistic>.
-
-=head2 The License Text
-
-                     GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
-                      Version 1, February 1989
-
-  Copyright (C) 1989 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
-                 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA
-  Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies
-  of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.
-

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-01 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-01 13:37 [devel] GPLv3 порождает проблемы, " Денис Смирнов
2007-07-01 13:58 ` Michael Shigorin
2007-07-01 14:10   ` Ivan Fedorov
2007-07-01 14:03 ` Igor Zubkov
2007-07-01 17:24 ` Kirill Maslinsky
2007-07-01 17:32   ` Michael Shigorin
2007-07-01 18:19     ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-07-01 20:00       ` Kirill Maslinsky
2007-07-01 20:13         ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-07-01 20:25           ` Michael Shigorin
2007-07-01 20:49             ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-07-05 11:49       ` Alexey Sidorov
2007-07-05 12:11         ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-07-27  9:58 ` [devel] GPLv3 порождает проблемы , " Sergey Y. Afonin
2007-07-29  1:20   ` Led
2007-07-29  5:00     ` Hihin Ruslan
2007-07-30  6:40       ` Денис Смирнов
2007-07-30  9:57         ` Alexander Bokovoy
2007-07-30 10:28           ` Slava Semushin
2007-07-30 10:37             ` Dmitry V. Levin
2007-07-30 10:39               ` Epiphanov Sergei
2007-07-30 20:14           ` Денис Смирнов
2007-07-31  8:19             ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-07-31 10:37               ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2007-07-31 16:53                 ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-01  6:57               ` Epiphanov Sergei
2007-08-01  9:09                 ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-01  9:25                   ` Epiphanov Sergei
2007-08-01  9:59                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-01 10:28                     ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-01 13:10                 ` Victor Forsyuk
2007-08-01 13:34                   ` Alexey Tourbin [this message]
2007-08-01 13:43                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-01 14:12                       ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-01 14:16                         ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-02 18:57                           ` Michael Shigorin
2007-08-03 21:08                             ` [devel] %gpl macros considered harmful Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-01 14:16                     ` [devel] GPLv3 порождает проблемы , которые нам необходимо решать Victor Forsyuk
2007-08-01 14:28                       ` [devel] Perl license Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-06 14:01                         ` Victor Forsyuk
2007-08-06 14:24                           ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2007-08-06 14:53                             ` Victor Forsyuk
2007-08-06 21:10                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-07  7:55                             ` Michael Shigorin
2007-08-02 18:55             ` [devel] %gpl Michael Shigorin
2007-08-02 23:37               ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-03  2:57                 ` Alexander Bokovoy
2007-08-03  3:48                   ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-03 10:19                   ` Led
2007-08-03  9:33                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-03 10:29                       ` Led
2007-08-03 11:59                       ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-03 12:32                         ` Motsyo Gennadi aka Drool
2007-08-03 12:37                         ` Damir Shayhutdinov
2007-08-03 12:56                           ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-03 14:50                             ` Damir Shayhutdinov
2007-08-03 15:28                               ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-03 18:42                                 ` Slava Semushin
2007-08-03 16:15                               ` Michael Shigorin
2007-08-03 16:37                         ` Денис Смирнов
2007-08-03 20:14                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2007-08-03 20:29                           ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-04 20:13                             ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-04 19:52                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-04 20:51                                 ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-05 18:35                                 ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-05 19:06                                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-05 20:06                                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-05 21:25                                     ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-05 21:42                                       ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-05 23:12                                         ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-05 23:18                                           ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-05 23:25                                             ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-05 23:33                                               ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-05 23:45                                                 ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-05 23:53                                                   ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-06  0:05                                                     ` Alexey Tourbin
2007-08-06 16:04                                                       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2007-08-06  4:32                                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-06  7:30                                         ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-06  6:58                                           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-06  8:48                                             ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-06  7:59                                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2007-08-06  9:02                                                 ` Nick S. Grechukh
2007-08-06  9:56                                             ` Alexey Rusakov
2007-08-06 10:27                                             ` Led
2007-08-03 13:35                     ` Michael Shigorin
2007-07-30  8:19       ` [devel] GPLv3 порождает проблемы , которые нам необходимо решать Sergey Y. Afonin
2007-07-29  8:02     ` Aleksey Novodvorsky

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