From: Michael Shigorin <mike@osdn.org.ua>
To: devel@altlinux.ru
Subject: [devel] Re: [JT] Debian RЁ
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:50:39 +0300
Message-ID: <20050413085039.GL10513@osdn.org.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050413033941.2cdbacb7.bga@altlinux.ru>
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 03:39:41AM +0400, Grigory Batalov wrote:
> Пусть меня забросают свежими помидорами, но почему бы
> ALTLinux-у не быть "Debian Russian Edition"?
Спросите AEN -- он как-то отвечал на этот вопрос.
Не помню, звучал ли там технический момент rpm vs dpkg,
но при порой возникающих раздумьях на схожие темы вспоминаю
тараканов, судя по всему обильно населяющих debian kernel
maintainer's head, и обычно тошноту при разглядывании
практически всех debian/rules, равно как и спеков SuSE/FC.
С одной стороны -- некая тенденция к укрупнению (объединению)
стоящих того дистрибутивов наблюдается, с другой стороны --
в тех же нишах скорее PLD и Owl, нежели Debian.
Мне вот из всего дебиана не хватает (аж) мягких зависимостей
и опыта людей, которые подняли canonical.com. Всё остальное
скорее есть сопоставимое или лучше (PowerPC не нужен сейчас).
Или реализуется при наличии вот этих двух...
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---- WBR, Michael Shigorin <mike@altlinux.ru>
------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/
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2005-04-12 23:39 [devel] [JT] Debian RE Grigory Batalov
2005-04-12 23:46 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-13 14:28 ` [devel] Re: [JT] " Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-13 15:50 ` [devel] Re: [JT] " Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-13 6:48 ` [devel] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2005-04-13 8:42 ` Ivan Fedorov
2005-04-13 8:58 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-13 8:46 ` Вячеслав Диконов
2005-04-13 11:23 ` Nick S. Grechukh
2005-04-13 11:29 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 11:50 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 11:40 ` Grigory Batalov
2005-04-13 11:51 ` Nick S. Grechukh
2005-04-13 11:57 ` Grigory Batalov
2005-04-13 12:01 ` Sergey Pinaev
2005-04-14 7:38 ` Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-14 10:41 ` Grigory Batalov
2005-04-14 13:27 ` Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-13 8:50 ` Michael Shigorin [this message]
2005-04-13 9:09 ` [devel] Re: [JT] [JT]Debian RЁ Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 9:32 ` Sergey Bolshakov
2005-04-13 9:57 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 11:16 ` [devel] bugzilla: in vs out Michael Shigorin
2005-04-13 9:40 ` [devel] Re: [JT] [JT]Debian RЁ Alexey Rusakov
2005-04-13 9:55 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 10:21 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-13 10:14 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 11:15 ` [devel] re updates Michael Shigorin
2005-04-13 11:35 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 11:43 ` [devel] " Konstantin A. Lepikhov
2005-04-13 12:07 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 14:29 ` [devel] [JT] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 4:36 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-13 9:13 ` [devel] Re: [JT] Debian RЁ Kirill A. Shutemov
2005-04-13 14:40 ` Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-13 15:09 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 4:40 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-14 8:23 ` [devel] distro comparison Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 8:57 ` [devel] Re: [JT] Debian RЁ Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-14 10:10 ` [devel] q: почему мы здесь? Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 12:55 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-14 13:09 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-14 13:38 ` Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-14 13:56 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-14 14:43 ` Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-14 15:47 ` [devel] " Vitaly Ostanin
2005-04-18 5:58 ` Alexey I. Froloff
2005-04-15 10:06 ` [devel] Re: q: " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-15 12:06 ` [devel] roadmap? (was: q: почему мы здесь?) Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 16:07 ` Alexey Voinov
2005-04-15 16:59 ` [devel] alterator architecture? (was: roadmap?) Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 17:43 ` Alexey Voinov
2005-04-27 18:08 ` [devel] [wiki] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-28 6:58 ` [devel] [wiki] Re: alterator architecture? Anton Farygin
2005-04-29 13:14 ` Денис Смирнов
2005-04-19 8:44 ` [devel] alterator architecture? (was: roadmap?) Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-19 8:52 ` Nick S. Grechukh
2005-04-19 9:06 ` Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-19 12:29 ` [devel] alterator architecture? Genix
2005-04-20 7:46 ` Nick S. Grechukh
2005-04-20 7:47 ` Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-19 13:01 ` [devel] Re: alterator architecture? (was: roadmap?) Michael Shigorin
2005-04-25 6:50 ` [devel] alterator architecture? Genix
2005-04-25 11:01 ` Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-25 11:03 ` Genix
2005-04-25 5:49 ` [devel] спасибо :-) Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 11:15 ` [devel] Re: q: почему мы здесь? Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 16:44 ` Alexander Bokovoy
2005-04-15 12:15 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-14 13:51 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-15 5:20 ` Вячеслав Диконов
2005-04-14 13:01 ` [devel] " Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-14 13:14 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-14 13:32 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-14 15:26 ` Andrey Brindeew
2005-04-14 16:27 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-14 17:08 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-14 17:14 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2005-04-14 17:35 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-14 17:46 ` Andrey Rahmatullin
2005-04-14 18:24 ` Andrey Brindeew
2005-04-14 18:05 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2005-04-14 20:17 ` [devel] " Vitaly Ostanin
2005-04-15 12:37 ` [devel] backwards compatibility Michael Shigorin
2005-04-16 18:39 ` Sergey Y. Afonin
2005-04-17 13:33 ` [devel] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 7:20 ` [devel] q: почему мы здесь? Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 8:03 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-15 12:35 ` [devel] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 14:21 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 14:32 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-15 14:42 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 15:07 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-15 18:18 ` Вячеслав Диконов
2005-04-15 16:15 ` [devel] backwards compatibility Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 16:29 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 17:02 ` [devel] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 17:40 ` Sergey Vlasov
2005-04-15 20:57 ` [devel] " Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-15 21:31 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-15 22:09 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-16 6:42 ` Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-16 19:58 ` [devel] Re: backwards compatibility [JT] Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-17 5:42 ` Alexey Tourbin
2005-04-17 15:59 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-18 12:56 ` [devel] Re: backwards compatibility Anton Farygin
2005-04-18 13:13 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-18 14:09 ` Денис Смирнов
2005-04-18 14:14 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-19 10:39 ` Денис Смирнов
2005-04-19 10:54 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Денис Смирнов
2005-04-20 10:53 ` Alexey I. Froloff
2005-04-20 15:20 ` Denis Smirnov
2005-04-20 11:07 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-20 17:36 ` Денис Смирнов
2005-04-20 13:34 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-20 11:19 ` Alexey I. Froloff
2005-04-18 21:07 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-16 19:59 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-17 17:59 ` [devel] " Grigory Batalov
2005-04-15 5:24 ` [devel] q: почему мы здесь? Вячеслав Диконов
2005-04-15 7:23 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 7:49 ` Maxim Tyurin
2005-04-15 12:38 ` [devel] 2.4/2.6, hotplug Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 14:24 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 14:36 ` Peter V. Saveliev
2005-04-15 14:43 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 14:54 ` Peter V. Saveliev
2005-04-15 15:30 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-18 13:21 ` Anton V. Boyarshinov
2005-04-18 13:29 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-18 13:33 ` [devel] " Vitaly Ostanin
2005-04-18 21:08 ` [devel] Re: 2.4/2.6, hotplug [JT] Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-19 4:45 ` Konstantin A. Lepikhov
2005-04-19 6:56 ` Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-19 12:42 ` Konstantin A. Lepikhov
2005-04-19 10:45 ` [devel] Re: vserver (was: 2.4/2.6, hotplug [JT]) Vitaly Ostanin
2005-04-19 11:31 ` [devel] Re: vserver Anton Farygin
2005-04-19 11:45 ` Konstantin Klimchev
2005-04-19 12:25 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-18 14:09 ` [devel] 2.4/2.6, hotplug Денис Смирнов
2005-04-15 12:22 ` [devel] Re: q: почему мы здесь? Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 14:26 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-14 13:42 ` [devel] " Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-15 12:45 ` [devel] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-15 14:32 ` Anton Farygin
2005-04-15 16:38 ` Michael Shigorin
2005-04-17 20:18 ` [devel] Re: q: почему мы здесь обсуждаем hotplug Dmitry V. Levin
2005-04-19 8:37 ` [devel] Re: q: почему мы здесь? Stanislav Ievlev
2005-04-19 12:19 ` [devel] [fin] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-13 20:54 ` [devel] Re: [JT] Debian RЁ Vitaly Lipatov
2005-04-14 10:34 ` Victor Forsyuk
2005-04-13 12:48 ` [devel] [JT] Debian RE Zhenja Kaluta
2005-04-13 13:07 ` Sergey Bolshakov
2005-04-13 13:20 ` Alexey I. Froloff
2005-04-13 14:23 ` [devel] [POLICY] " Michael Shigorin
2005-04-13 13:20 ` [devel] [JT] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-13 13:25 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-13 13:33 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2005-04-13 14:27 ` [devel] " Alexey Tourbin
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