From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:17:51 +0300 From: "Alexey I. Froloff" To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] =?koi8-r?B?8MXSxcjPxCDOwSDO?= =?koi8-r?B?z9fZyg==?= python Message-ID: <20050317071751.GP16967@immo.ru> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <200503091049.10104.cray@neural.ru> <200503161429.31601.cray@neural.ru> <20050316114305.GJ16967@immo.ru> <200503161611.54490.cray@neural.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o41d8xLWOaLD8vYh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503161611.54490.cray@neural.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7+cvs20050205i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at immo.ru X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:17:56 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --o41d8xLWOaLD8vYh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Andrey Orlov [050316 16:12]: > =F4=C5=D0=C5=D2=D8 =D0=CF=C4=D2=CF=C2=CE=CF.=20 [..skip..] > =E5=D3=CC=C9 =D6=C5 =D7=C1=CD libpython2.3 =CE=D5=D6=CE=C1 =C4=CC=D1 =DE= =C5=C7=CF-=D4=CF =C5=DD=C5, =D4=CF .... =D7=C1=CD > =D0=D2=C9=C4=C5=D4=D3=D1 =DE=C5=CD-=D4=CF =D0=CF=D6=C5=D2=D4=D7=CF=D7=C1= =D4=D8. =EE=D5, =CD=D9 =D7=DE=C5=D2=C1 =D7 jabber =DC=D4=CF=D4 =D7=CF=D0=D2=CF=D3 = =D5=D6=C5 =CF=C2=D3=D5=D6=C4=C1=CC=C9... =E5=D3=CC=C9 =D0=C9=D4=CF=CE =CF=C4=C9=CE, =D4=CF =D0=CF=DE=C5=CD=D5 =C9=C8= =D4=D2=C9? =FA=C1=DE=C5=CD =CE=D5=D6=CE=CF =C4=C5=D2=D6=C1=D4=D8 =D7 =D2=C5=D0=CF=DA=C9=D4=C1=D2=C9=C9 =D4=D2=C9 =D7=C5=D2=D3=C9=C9 =D0=C9=D4=CF= =CE=C1? 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