----- Forwarded message from sean finney ----- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:06:31 -0500 From: sean finney To: Michael Shigorin Subject: Re: q: webapp-policy hi there, On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 02:36:45PM +0200, Michael Shigorin wrote: > I'm interested in developing some sane policy regarding web > applications and vhosts; as far as I can see, the area is still > largely questioned and not answered. this is true. i think at this point there are ways that most people agree things should not be done, but that's about as far as things have gotten. > We at ALT Linux Team have some considerations but no robust > policy just as well by now, and it's hurting. this is still a problem in debian too. the dpkg/debconf combination in the debian packaging system gives a great oppurtunity for us to be able to do things in a helpful and effective way, but unfortunately the efforts are splintered and everyone seems to re-invent the wheel with every package, often doing things against debian packaging policy. recently, i've been focusing on a very narrow subset of the webapp policy, specifically the part that relates to database applications. you can find more information about what i've done here[1]. it seems that ALT linux is rpm based, so i don't know how much of the packaging work that i've done will be of help (there are packages for this stuff already), but many of the decisions for how packages should behave if they want to install their databases might be helpful for other distributions. note that none of this is actually debian policy, but a consensus reached by a small number of developers via discussions on debian-devel. > Is this of any interest to you or anyone you know yet? it definitely is. i maintain two web-application packages myself, and am constantly annoyed by not only having to do a large amount of work in packaging them, but also by other people's shoddy packaging of similar applications. i've also been frustrated by the slow progress with the larger webapp policy, which is in part why i've decided to focus on the smaller part of database-related issues, because that's something i've been able to handle myself, and i think the approach that i've used for this can be expanded to the larger project once things have stabilized. if you at ALT linux have any suggestions or feedback on either the web or db-specific policy drafts, i'd love to hear them. regards, sean [1] http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbapp-policy.html -- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ---- WBR, Michael Shigorin ------ Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/