From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:58:32 +0300 From: Alexander Bokovoy To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] Re: =?koi8-r?B?y8HLINDSwdfJ?= =?koi8-r?B?zNjOzyDX2dDPzM7J1Nggy8/Nwc7E1T8=?= Message-ID: <20030619145832.GB4618@sam-solutions.net> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <20030619001959.7887b83b.andrei@altlinux.ru> <20030619053737.GC4668@solemn.turbinal.org> <20030619112928.GA1256@basalt.office.altlinux.org> <87y8zyqoxt.fsf@pc349.belcaf.minsk.by> <20030619120804.GE4668@solemn.turbinal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20030619120804.GE4668@solemn.turbinal.org> X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:05:40 -0000 Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 04:08:04PM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:36:30PM +0300, Grigory Milev wrote: > > >> CMD=/bin/date [ -x "$CMD" ] && "$CMD" > > > > Dmitry> CMD=/bin/date [ ! -x "$CMD" ] || "$CMD" > > А в чем половая разница в этих двух вариантах? > > А это как бы и есть тайное знание. :) Я тоже задаюсь таким вопросом. > С другой стороны -- это подстрекательство к изучению исходников bash. > Так что не всё так плохо. :) Нет здесь ничего тайного. Вы попробуйте использовать эти конструкции в postinstall-скрипте в случае, когда $CMD неисполняема и сразу поймете, о чем идет речь и почему писать нужно именно так. P.S. автоматические сборочные системы рулят в этом случае :) -- / Alexander Bokovoy The more control, the more that requires control. >>From ed@altlinux.ru Fri Jun 20 12:22:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B2148AA8 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:22:48 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mail.belcaf.minsk.by (mail.sam-solutions.net [217.21.35.41]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8EBE31CF for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:22:44 +0400 (MSD) Received: from pc213.sam-solutions.net ([192.168.111.243]) by mail.belcaf.minsk.by (MTA 4.15) with ESMTP id HGRTXU00.2SW for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:22:42 +0300 Received: from pc213.sam-solutions.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) h5K7M7CX011441 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:22:07 +0400 Received: (from ed@localhost) by pc213.sam-solutions.net (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h5K7M7kQ011440; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:22:07 +0400 X-Comment-To: "Albert R. Valiev" To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] Странный эффект при использовании этого ядра In-Reply-To: <200306201154.39057.darkstar@altlinux.ru> (Albert R. Valiev's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:54:38 +0400") References: <200306181052.20099.darkstar@altlinux.ru> <200306201013.17253.ilar@altlinux.ru> <200306201154.39057.darkstar@altlinux.ru> From: ed@altlinux.ru (Ed V. Bartosh) Organization: ALT Linux Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:22:06 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:22:49 -0000 >>>>> "ARV" == Albert R. Valiev writes: ARV> В сообщении от 20 Июнь 2003 10:48 Ed V. Bartosh написал: >> Это ядро собрано с NFS добавками, которые требуют изменений в >> nfs-utils. В комментариях я об этом писал, не нужно было пока это >> брать. ARV> Ага, т.е. пока лучше выключить или же ждать новых nfs-utils? Лучше выключить, я пока не собираюсь nfs-utils патченое пакетировать, с ядрами бы доразобраться. -- Best regards, Ed V. Bartosh X-Mailer: Gnus v5.10.2/XEmacs 21.4 - "Portable Code" >>From inger@altlinux.org Fri Jun 20 12:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDB0491C3 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:28:38 +0400 (MSD) Received: from basalt.office.altlinux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F06E31CF for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:28:38 +0400 (MSD) Received: by basalt.office.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 502) id AE52E109D; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:28:38 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:28:38 +0400 From: Stanislav Ievlev To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] =?koi8-r?B?0MHLxdTZINcg08na?= =?koi8-r?B?ycbF?= Message-ID: <20030620082838.GL12969@basalt.office.altlinux.org> References: <3EF2326C.7060707@l14.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3EF2326C.7060707@l14.ru> X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:28:39 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:00:12AM +0400, Алексей Любимов wrote: > Я тут на днях залил rox-2.0.0 и ROX-Session в incoming/Sisyphus > Об этом надо было здесь протрубить? > И еще, я смотрю, народ в Sisyphus/BTE пакеты заливает. > А куда, вообще говоря, надо? Вы собираете у себя пакеты вручную и ли с использованием BTE (sandman,pkg-build)? Если с использованием BTE, то в можете в подкаталог BTE. Впрочем, в связи с ближайшим введением автоматической пересборки приходящих в incoming пакетов в BTE, необходимость в отдельном подкаталоге отпадёт. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel@altlinux.ru > http://altlinux.ru/mailman/listinfo/devel >>From svd@ns1.lintec.minsk.by Fri Jun 20 12:49:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EE3498E4 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:49:48 +0400 (MSD) Received: from ns1.lintec.minsk.by (ns1.lintec.minsk.by [212.98.162.2]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBE9E31D0 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:49:41 +0400 (MSD) Received: from stealth.local.lintec.minsk.by (stealth.local.lintec.minsk.by [192.168.1.44]) by ns1.lintec.minsk.by (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5K8oWb04147 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:50:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from stealth.local.lintec.minsk.by (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by stealth.local.lintec.minsk.by (Postfix) with SMTP id 526DD12BFB for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:49:13 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:49:12 +0300 From: Sviatoslav Sviridov/Lintec Project To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] =?KOI8-R?Q?=D0=C1=CB=C5=D4=D9_=D7_=D3=C9=DA=C9=C6=C5?= Message-Id: <20030620114912.04dbad3d.svd@lintec.minsk.by> In-Reply-To: <20030620082838.GL12969@basalt.office.altlinux.org> References: <3EF2326C.7060707@l14.ru> <20030620082838.GL12969@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Organization: Lintec Project JV X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-alt-linux-gnu) X-Face: %Av?Q?S`_fW3{8Nn@U?pmQ:KpT{ubq^sADb; Mqrs'rMWqxeYqnbN>?urq)N7<]T:H!bH!gzQfxTc5s9ee:^hCOeUF}|tc<2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:49:48 -0000 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 12:28:38 +0400 Stanislav Ievlev wrote: > Впрочем, в связи с ближайшим введением автоматической пересборки > приходящих в incoming пакетов в BTE, необходимость в отдельном > подкаталоге отпадёт. (чисто из любопытства) а можно поподробней? что будет использоваться в качестве BTE? Пересборка будет инициироваться вручную или автоматически? Отчёт о сборке будет мейнтейнеру отсылатсья, или всё через руки инкамингера? -- Sviatoslav Sviridov /* icq: 10845380; jid: svd at altlinux dot org; */ Chamberlain's Laws: (1) The big guys always win. (2) Everything tastes more or less like chicken. >>From ldv@altlinux.org Fri Jun 20 13:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E52348B51 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:01:15 +0400 (MSD) Received: from basalt.office.altlinux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201A0E31CF for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:01:15 +0400 (MSD) Received: by basalt.office.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 844FE109D; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:01:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:01:14 +0400 From: "Dmitry V. Levin" To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] Re: NSS modules and buildreq Message-ID: <20030620090114.GD13800@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <20030611055835.GB9445@mhz.mikhail.zabaluev.name> <20030611094704.GB2989@ungrund> <20030611095805.GD10595@basalt.office.altlinux.org> <20030620011803.GA4346@solemn.turbinal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="veXX9dWIonWZEC6h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620011803.GA4346@solemn.turbinal.org> X-fingerprint: 9658 398D 181B 1200 8FC5 26B8 F6F8 846B C1E2 3429 X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:01:15 -0000 --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:18:03AM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 01:58:05PM +0400, Dmitry V. Levin wrote: > > > Ещё предложение по поводу buildreq: убирать некоторые зависимости на > > > *tcb*, которые возникают достаточно часто (кажется, при любом вызове > > > типа getpwent()). > > > > Конечно, не при любом, а только из семейства getsp*. > > $ filereq ~/tmp/filereq perl -MNet::Domain=hostname -le 'print hostname' > solemn > $ grep tcb ~/tmp/filereq > /lib/libnss_tcb.so.2 > /lib/libtcb.so.0 > $ $ filereq /dev/stdout hostname -s |fgrep nss /etc/nsswitch.conf /lib/libnss_files.so.2 $ filereq /dev/stdout perl -MNet::Domain=hostname -le 'print hostname' |fgrep nss /etc/nsswitch.conf /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 /lib/libnss_files.so.2 /lib/libnss_tcb.so.2 очевидно, perl не прав. -- ldv --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+8s1a9viEa8HiNCkRAkrDAJ42M5+xayvjpyfVwIYKq2+mXU8UMQCZASy0 X400YDL3X+TNSOqIkH1jC4Y= =ZDgP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --veXX9dWIonWZEC6h-- >>From ldv@altlinux.org Fri Jun 20 13:04:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F5048B51 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:04:28 +0400 (MSD) Received: from basalt.office.altlinux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C0AE31D4 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:04:28 +0400 (MSD) Received: by basalt.office.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2F238109D; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:04:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:04:28 +0400 From: "Dmitry V. Levin" To: ALT Devel discussion list Subject: Re: [devel] ~/RPM Message-ID: <20030620090428.GE13800@basalt.office.altlinux.org> Mail-Followup-To: ALT Devel discussion list References: <20030620001758.GB21297@solemn.turbinal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+JUInw4efm7IfTNU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030620001758.GB21297@solemn.turbinal.org> X-fingerprint: 9658 398D 181B 1200 8FC5 26B8 F6F8 846B C1E2 3429 X-BeenThere: devel@altlinux.ru X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ALT Devel discussion list List-Id: ALT Devel discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:04:28 -0000 --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 04:17:58AM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote: > ldv, т.к. у нас основная (и почти единственная) платформа для сборки -- > i586, то, возожно, каталоги типа ~/RPM/RPMS/i586 стоит делать симлинками > на ~/RPM/RPMS. Я уже несколько раз так делал. Это у вас i586, а у других, наверняка, все иначе. :) > Ещё при первой сборке НЕ создается каталог ~/RPM/SRPMS. Это #2353. -- ldv --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+8s4c9viEa8HiNCkRAlQBAJ9SHR8utGRX2exRTuu0R1eqTsn+QgCfYKw0 ryQtzM5Fh/swm859XQG03f8= =kunD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU-- >>From darkstar@altlinux.ru Fri Jun 20 13:16:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devel@lrn.ru Received: from master.altlinux.ru (master.altlinux.ru [62.118.250.235]) by lrn.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B89498E4 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: from e-nk.ru (unknown [217.107.90.106]) by master.altlinux.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6513BE31D4 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: by e-nk.ru (Postfix, from userid 501) id E37DF210F7A; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:23 +0400 (MSD) Received: from 217.107.125.113 (darkstar.e-nk.ru [217.107.125.113]) by e-nk.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1613210F79 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:22 +0400 (MSD) From: "Albert R. 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