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From: Michael Shigorin <mike@osdn.org.ua>
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Subject: [devel] Re: I: new packages to Incoming/Sisyphus
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:06:38 +0300
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 12:08:56PM +0400, Stanislav Ievlev wrote:
> > > kernel-modules-hsflinmodem-w4l-up-5.03.27lnxtbeta03042700-alt3.src.rpm
> > А эти пакеты создают файл устройства или нет ???
> Вообще-то у нас не разрешено пакетам создавать файлы устройства.

Кстати, ситуация напоминает спецпользователей и setup.

Мнения?

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On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:37:37AM +0400, Alexey Tourbin wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 12:19:59AM +0400, Andrey Astafiev wrote:
> > Покажите, пожалуйста, пример скрипта, исполняющего
> > программу, если она установлена, и не добавляющего
> > зависимости на эту программу в пакет со скриптом.
> 
> CMD=/bin/date
> [ -x "$CMD" ] && "$CMD"

CMD=/bin/date
[ ! -x "$CMD" ] || "$CMD"


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Subject: [devel] I: new version - synaptic-0.37
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Приветствую,

В /incoming/Sisyphus залит

8661e8caef2859193ff929761e768811  synaptic-0.37-alt1.src.rpm

%changelog
* Thu Jun 19 2003 Sviatoslav Sviridov <svd@altlinux.ru> 0.37-alt1
- 0.37
- updated russian translation

=======================================
Begin forwarded message:

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:51:38 +0200
From: Michael Vogt <mvogt@acm.org>
To: synaptic-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Synaptic-devel] New release 0.37


Dear Friends,


It took longer than expected, but it's finally out!

We are happy to announce synaptic 0.37 today!

It will only need gtk2.0 to build, so people using older versions of
there distro can use it as well. The other NEWS:

 - optimisation of the package view, should be faster now
   (especially the flat list)
 - the "update" button for the rgfiltermanager dialog is gone,
   all changes to the filters are tracked automaticly
 - the repository dialog is glade based now
 - some basic support for sources.list.d (thanks Panu)
 - load/save changes is implemeted (you can save your changes and
   later reload them)
 - should build with gtk2.0 again (for all people that use RH8.x or
   UnitedLinux 1.0)
 - a new "not installable" filter was added
 - the search is more intelligent when it comes to multiple words, 
   it behaves very much like "apt-cache search" now
   (see bug #3864 in savannah)

The biggest thing is probably the rewritten "flat list" mode. This
mode is much faster now than it was in .35,36. The speed is still not
optimal and we are still trying to improve it. Interessted people may
have a look into the etable/ branch in the subversion tree. 


If you have any problems/suggestions, just let me know. 

You can get it at the usual place at
http://savannah.nongnu.org/files/?group=synaptic 


bye,
 Michael


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On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 12:01:39PM +0600, Victor V Ismakaev wrote:
> > Тесты лучше всегда делать (когда физически возможно).  Это же
> > минимальное доказательство того, что пакет работает.
> Это не всегда возможно.Особенно если тест основывается на каком-то подпакете 

Я и говорю: если физически возможно.

Например, пакет perl-DBD-mysql требует работающей СУБД со свободным
доступом пользователя test без пароля.  Этого нельзя гарантировать в
среде сборки.

Иногда можно удалить некоторые тесты (и тем не менее оставить большую их
часть), чтобы избежать нежелательных требований.

%__rm -fv t/test1.t t/test2.t

> собираемого пакета или требует доступа к некоторому внешнему ресурсу,который 

Подпакет собранного пакета должен работать в buildroot'е.

> может быть недоступен для сборочной машины.

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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:11:52 +0400
"Alexey V. Lubimov" <avl@l14.ru> wrote:

> [avl@avl SPECS]$ buildreq seahorse.spec
> umovestr: Input/output error
[skip]
> setbpt: ptrace(PTRACE_PEEKTEXT, ...): Input/output error
> 
> Так что доточить пакет, пока не переползу с xfs на рейзер, не получится.

Кстати, на ядре 2.4.21 и kernel-feat-xfs (само ядро самосборное - в
aw-up для рабочей машины многого не хватает) это безобразие прошло.
(Тоже надоело перезагружаться на 2.4.18.)
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 02:36:30PM +0300, Grigory Milev wrote:
>     >> CMD=/bin/date [ -x "$CMD" ] && "$CMD"
> 
>     Dmitry> CMD=/bin/date [ ! -x "$CMD" ] || "$CMD"
> А в чем половая разница в этих двух вариантах?

А это как бы и есть тайное знание. :)  Я тоже задаюсь таким вопросом.
С другой стороны -- это подстрекательство к изучению исходников bash.
Так что не всё так плохо. :)

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On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:20:24 +0300
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> >>>>> "Sergey" == Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru> writes:
> 
>     Sergey> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:11:52 +0400
>     Sergey> "Alexey V. Lubimov" <avl@l14.ru> wrote:
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>     >> [avl@avl SPECS]$ buildreq seahorse.spec umovestr: Input/output error
>     Sergey> [skip]
>     >> setbpt: ptrace(PTRACE_PEEKTEXT, ...): Input/output error
>     >> 
>     >> Так что доточить пакет, пока не переползу с xfs на рейзер, не
>     >> получится.
> 
>     Sergey> Кстати, на ядре 2.4.21 и kernel-feat-xfs (само ядро самосборное -
>     Sergey> в aw-up для рабочей машины многого не хватает) это безобразие
>     Sergey> прошло.  (Тоже надоело перезагружаться на 2.4.18.)
> А кто тебе сказал, что aw-up для рабочей машины рассчитано?

Так std с поддержкой xfs ещё не собрано. Ну ничего, make menuconfig
сделать недолго :-)

Хотя вот сегодня w4l из incoming вылезло, его можно пощупать.
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Приветствую!
В Daedalus выложены обновлённые пакеты:
perl

----------------------------------------------------------
perl
----------------------------------------------------------
Description :
Perl is a high-level programming language with roots in C, sed, awk
and shell scripting.  Perl is good at handling processes and files,
and is especially good at handling text.  Perl's hallmarks are
practicality and efficiency.  While it is used to do a lot of
different things, Perl's most common applications (and what it excels
at) are probably system administration utilities and web programming.
A large proportion of the CGI scripts on the web are written in Perl.
You need the perl package installed on your system so that your
system can handle Perl scripts.

Changelog:
----------------------------------------------------------
* Срд Июн 18 2003 Alexey Tourbin <at@altlinux.ru> 1:5.8.1-alt0.4.pre19792
- moved to the latest snapshot (maint 19792)
- alt-B-Deparse-fixes.patch (can't get comments on this from perl5-porters)
- Term/ReadLine.pm moved to perl-Term-ReadLine-Gnu package
- added support for /etc/perl5 module directory (debian)
- fix-perms.patch: owner-writable permissions by default

Пакет для самостоятельной сборки доступен по адресу:
ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/Daedalus/SRPMS.daedalus/perl-5.8.1-alt0.4.pre19792.src.rpm

Пакеты для установки доступны по адресу:
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-19 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-18  6:52 [devel] " Albert R. Valiev
2003-06-19  7:25 ` vserge
2003-06-19  8:08   ` Stanislav Ievlev
2003-06-19 10:06     ` Michael Shigorin [this message]
2003-06-20  7:13 ` [devel] Странный эффект при использовании этого ядра Igor Tertishny

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