From: Serge Skorokhodov <suralis@pisem.net>
To: Zigfrid Dubel <mandrake-russian@altlinux.ru>
Subject: Re: [mdk-re] [JT] Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ
Date: Mon Jun 18 21:17:11 2001
Message-ID: <3533101056.20010618212002@pisem.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1324798601.20010618204341@mail.ru>
Здравствуйте!
Zigfrid Dubel пишет:
> Hello Serge,
> понедельник, 18 июня 2001 г., you wrote:
SS>> Открытый софт должен предоставить человеку все, что ему надо
SS>> для повседневной работы на компьтере.
> все занимаются разными вещами и если я не могу чего-то сделать
> в линухе, то это серьезная проблема, тем более, что этого
> сделать не может большой пласт людей!
IMHO, общедоступность desktop publishing "среднеофсетного"
качества я бы рассматривал с тех же позиций, как американцы --
огнестрельное оружие: "Каждый имеет право работать на программном
обеспечении, позволяющий подготовить типографскую публикацию для
противодействию информационной тирании недобросовсетного
правительства":)
SS>> Является ли подготовка цветоделенных форм повседневной
SS>> работой?
> для некоторых да!! Кому то нужно тексты набивать, а кому и с
> графикой работать и я работаю в виндах из-зи этого, что нет
> достойных!!
Absolutely! Если бы было на что -- перескочил бы не задумываясь!
Дело даже не в открытости -- дело в "разумной" цене. То, что
типографский софт и Mac'и столько стоят -- вполне возможно
справедливо. Но для тех целей, для которых это надо мне (здесь и
сейчас:) я не хочу и не могу платить стоимость инструментов
зарабатывания денег на тихоокеанском побережье США. Это, между
прочим, тоже элемент диктата! Столмен, ау...
SS>> И зачем человеку CMYK?
> я промолчу...
И действительно...
Сергей Скороходов 18.06.2001 suralis@pisem.net
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2001-06-08 21:40 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Офтопик NT4 Maksim Otstavnov
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2001-06-17 15:15 ` Roman S
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2001-06-17 16:51 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свобо дном софте avl
2001-06-17 17:45 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
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2001-06-18 14:31 ` Andriy Dobrovolskii
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2001-06-19 20:26 ` avl
2001-06-18 18:52 ` Igor Solovyov
2001-06-18 20:44 ` avl
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2001-06-19 19:31 ` avl
2001-06-20 10:05 ` Pavel Marakhovsky
2001-06-20 12:33 ` avl
2001-06-20 12:55 ` Andriy Dobrovolskii
2001-06-20 13:41 ` avl
2001-06-20 13:54 ` Andriy Dobrovolskii
2001-06-20 14:47 ` avl
2001-06-20 15:02 ` Andriy Dobrovolskii
2001-06-20 19:25 ` Pavel Marakhovsky
2001-06-20 19:53 ` avl
2001-06-21 10:31 ` Pavel Marakhovsky
2001-06-21 19:59 ` avl
2001-06-22 5:28 ` Pavel Marakhovsky
2001-06-22 14:59 ` avl
2001-06-22 16:37 ` Michael Ivanov
2001-06-22 17:39 ` avl
2001-06-22 18:36 ` Michael Ivanov
2001-06-22 19:09 ` avl
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2001-07-16 1:04 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
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2001-06-22 19:57 ` avl
2001-06-23 2:45 ` Pavel Marakhovsky
2001-07-14 2:47 ` Michael Shigorin
2001-06-20 21:40 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-20 23:00 ` avl
2001-06-19 9:08 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свобо дном софте Antonio
2001-06-19 11:20 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏ ÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-19 11:34 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свобо дном софте Sergei Aranovsky
2001-06-17 22:42 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏ ÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
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2001-06-18 1:15 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
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2001-06-18 2:13 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-18 10:16 ` avl
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2001-06-18 20:28 ` [mdk-re] " Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-18 21:17 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏ ÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 11:09 ` [mdk-re] [JT] Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 20:12 ` [mdk-re] [JT] о свободном софте avl
2001-06-18 21:17 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] [JT] Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 20:34 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] [JT] о свободном софте Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-18 21:17 ` Serge Skorokhodov [this message]
2001-06-17 17:55 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk " Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-17 18:43 ` Egor Azanov
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2001-06-17 19:58 ` [mdk-re] " Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-18 9:48 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ îÏ×ÏÍÌÉÎÓËÉÊ éÇÏÒØ
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2001-06-17 21:14 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-17 21:37 ` Egor Azanov
2001-06-17 21:49 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-17 22:18 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-17 22:25 ` Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-17 22:49 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-22 16:17 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-23 17:42 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-25 17:51 ` Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-25 17:57 ` Vyt
2001-06-25 18:10 ` Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-25 18:13 ` Vyt
2001-06-25 18:21 ` Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-25 18:34 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-26 16:42 ` [mdk-re] emacs fonts (was Re: [mdk-re] [JT] justtalk о свободном софте) Axel
2001-06-25 18:26 ` [mdk-re] [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-18 0:43 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] just talk " Michael Shigorin
2001-06-18 14:39 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-22 7:30 ` Michael Shigorin
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2001-06-18 12:23 ` Antonio
2001-06-18 13:07 ` Axel
2001-06-18 14:49 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-18 15:41 ` Баталов Григорий
2001-06-18 21:38 ` Alexey Voinov
2001-06-18 13:26 ` [mdk-re] mc (was Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте) Axel
2001-06-18 22:55 ` [mdk-re] " Alexey Voinov
2001-06-17 21:42 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Aleksey Korolkov
2001-06-17 23:42 ` [mdk-re] " Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-18 0:43 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] just talk " Michael Shigorin
2001-06-18 1:30 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] just talk о свободномсофте Dmitry Levashov
2001-06-18 11:09 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] ÓÒÅÄÙ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ (was: Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ) Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 14:15 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] среды программирования (was: о свободномсофте) Юрий Борунов
2001-06-18 20:05 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] средыпрограммирования (was: о свободном софте) avl
2001-07-15 17:43 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] среды программирования Michael Shigorin
2001-07-15 17:59 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-07-15 18:07 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] средыпрограммирования Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-07-15 18:11 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-07-16 1:11 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] среды программирования Sergey Degtyaryov
2001-07-16 1:47 ` Баталов Григорий
2001-07-16 2:28 ` [mdk-re] [JT] сред ы программирования Mikhail Nikitin
2001-07-17 11:53 ` [mdk-re] [mdk-re] Re: [JT] среды программирования Michael Shigorin
2001-07-17 14:20 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-07-17 14:46 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-07-17 15:23 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-07-17 15:15 ` Баталов Григорий
2001-07-17 18:17 ` Sergey Vlasov
2001-06-18 14:47 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] just talk о свободном софте Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-19 11:58 ` Artem K. Jouravsky
2001-06-22 7:31 ` Michael Shigorin
2001-06-22 15:21 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-18 11:17 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk " Michael Orlov
2001-06-18 12:26 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 12:45 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Michael Orlov
2001-06-18 20:29 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободномсофте Alex Yemelyanov
2001-06-18 21:17 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 15:10 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Mikhail Nikitin
2001-06-18 12:19 ` [mdk-re] " Vyt
2001-06-18 18:16 ` Igor Solovyov
2001-06-17 22:09 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] " Maksim Otstavnov
2001-06-18 0:43 ` Michael Shigorin
2001-06-18 9:30 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: [mdk-re] " Antonio
2001-06-17 16:51 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном со фте avl
2001-06-17 17:33 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-18 0:43 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] just talk о свободном софте Michael Shigorin
2001-06-17 22:42 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-18 0:18 ` [mdk-re] Re: [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-18 0:37 ` [mdk-re] Re[2]: " Zigfrid Dubel
2001-06-18 1:11 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-19 11:37 ` Sergei Aranovsky
2001-06-19 23:01 ` [mdk-re] " Mikhail Zabaluev
2001-06-20 10:14 ` Sergei Aranovsky
2001-06-19 23:10 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-20 11:21 ` Sergei Aranovsky
2001-06-21 16:53 ` Aleksey Novodvorsky
2001-06-22 9:19 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk Ï Ó×ÏÂÏÄÎÏÍ ÓÏÆÔÅ buga
2001-07-15 17:43 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] justtalk о свободном софте Michael Shigorin
2001-07-15 23:53 ` Mikhail Zabaluev
2001-06-11 13:04 ` [mdk-re] Re: [JT] Офтопик NT4 Sergey Bolshakov
2001-06-09 17:01 ` [mdk-re] OS/2 [Re: [mdk-re] [JT]^2 Офтопик NT4] Michael Shigorin
2001-06-06 11:47 ` Re[2]: [mdk-re] ïÆÔÏÐÉË NT4 Serge Skorokhodov
2001-06-06 12:04 ` Russu V.F.
2001-06-06 12:12 ` [mdk-re] Офтопик NT4 Anton Farygin
2001-06-06 14:37 ` cornet
2001-06-07 12:17 ` Sergei Aranovsky
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